Title: Too many baths?
Post by: peterb on February 14, 2003, 09:20:22 AM
Too many baths? 2/13/2003 1:13 PM By: Capital News 9 web staff
You want your baby to be squeeky clean, but how do you when is bathing excessive?
Dr. Amy Campion of Capital Care Family Medicine said, I think a good rule of thumb is maybe three to four times a week, so maybe about every other day."
Dr. Amy Campion of Capital Care Family Medicine in Slingerlands said too many baths can be harmful to your child's skin. It can cause dryness and irritation, especially if your baby has a skin condition called eczema.
Dr. Campion said, "Eczema is actually common in infants and about 10 percent of infants have eczema. So, for infants who have those types of skin conditions, bathing or bathing too often can make those conditions worse."
Hygiene is important; washing up helps prevent colds. Just don't overdo the bath time.
Instead, try sponge baths. For newborns, Parenting Magazine recommends a daily sponge bath. Babies 3 to 6 months can be bathed daily.
Older children may need a bath only every other day, especially during the cold winter months when your skin and theirs takes a beating. Otherwise, make sure you at least wash their face, hands, and feet. Too many baths?
With this cold weather, excessive bathing could cause skin irritation.
Dr. Campion said, "Everyone's skin is always drier during the winter anyway, and bathing can dry the skin even more."
Also, if your child is getting too many baths, the chance of developing asthma increases.
Dr. Campion suggests using unscented soaps and bath gels to clean your child. If you notice any signs of asthma or eczema, be sure to consult your doctor.
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Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: roni on February 14, 2003, 12:04:47 PM
I would agree with the above. Most of you know I have concerns about Kirsty's skin and I know for a fact if she baths every day her ezcema gets worse. If she baths every other day or even just twice a week she has no signs of the dreaded *E .
Good bit of reading there Peter, thanks :peck: |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: Alison on February 14, 2003, 01:11:43 PM
yep agree wiv u there roni , my little 1 has e ,defo notice the diffrence if she has a bath every day :-X
makes it harder now 2 as she notices it and has a good ol scratch
only bath her a couple of times a week now wiv plenty of oil and cream on after |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: Val on February 14, 2003, 05:49:08 PM
Mmm!! We do seem to have got a bit obsessive, with the bath/shower daily thing. We never seemed to hear about so many of these skin conditions when we used to bath once or twice weekly, and made do with washes in between.
Also have you noticed how asthma and other breathing conditions have risen since we went with double glazing, fitted carpets, central heating etc., maybe the old saying, "a little bit of dirt and germs, won't kill you" was right :-/
Great article Peter. ;) |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: scarletgail on February 15, 2003, 10:50:50 AM
| :) i also agree with ya all, the bath thing everyday is a defo dry out :) |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on February 16, 2003, 12:53:44 AM
Good article again Pete.
Be careful of all these baths as most of the water supplies are loaded full of chlorine. Its real good stuff to irritate and trigger reactions to many skin conditions.
Val .. Pretty good you are . spot on . Open the windows and let some good fresh air blow through the place.
You know when I was A little 4 year old I got lost for hours.. Everyone was frantic. Eventually I was found .. sitting in the Chookhouse with all the Chooks . I had somehow pinched a corn cob from our crop and was covered in muck, sharing my corn with the chooks and they were sharing their grit and scraps and mash with me . I had been there for hours and was quite happy . My face resembled what one could only be described as a garbage bin. Gods knows what I had eaten.
My mother was horrified and wanted to dash me off and have me checked out for all manner of things.
My grandma stopped her .. Wise old soul she was .. and said let him be .. The only thing he will have caught is a good imune system..
My grandma was right you know .. And Val .. so are you..
True Story ..
Fish. |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: Alison on February 16, 2003, 12:58:40 AM
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: Cazzie on February 16, 2003, 08:00:51 AM
| That is a great story Fish! I think your right about all the chlorine causing skin irritation. You can buy shower nozzles that filters the chlorine. I have yet to buy one but intend to soon. |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on February 17, 2003, 04:51:16 AM
Thanks for the story compliments everyone, glad to share it with you.
Caz .. Lets know if you find one of those nozzles please .. I would be keen to try one out.
Fish |
Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: peterb on February 17, 2003, 11:01:51 AM
Thanks for the story compliments everyone, glad to share it with you.
Caz .. Lets know if you find one of those nozzles please .. I would be keen to try one out.
Fish |
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Cazzie and Fish's
I found shower filters in the states, have alook you could get them delivered.
http://www.henrywaterfilters.com/prod04.htm
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Title: Re: Too many baths?
Post by: peterb on February 17, 2003, 11:07:07 AM
Or these more expensive again, but are Australian.
http://www.waterdistillersaustralia.com/showerfilters.htm |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Teodora on May 17, 2003, 04:35:03 PM
| My boyfriend has a bath every other day for 1-2 hours and says this is the only thing that helps reducing the itch(plus some oil in the water).isn't it strange?that's exactely the opposite of all the things I have read.I am puzzeled but can not deny his experience......Any explanations? |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: peterb on May 17, 2003, 09:30:23 PM
My boyfriend has a bath every other day for 1-2 hours and says this is the only thing that helps reducing the itch(plus some oil in the water).isn't it strange?that's exactely the opposite of all the things I have read.I am puzzeled but can not deny his experience......Any explanations?
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No, eczema is like psoriasis and other skin conditions, what works for some doesn't work for others. Strange old world! ???
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Nick on May 17, 2003, 09:39:11 PM
Hi Teodora
Being a bit curious as I am ::) What oils does he put in the bath ?
Could it be the oils helping to reduce the itch ? |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 17, 2003, 10:04:38 PM
I was just thinking along the same lines as Nick, if he's got some good oils in the water, and not scrubbing at his skin with soap? Not just that, if your feeling in pain n itchy its just nice and stressbusting to have a relaxing soak ?
Anyways, I know the HS is very diff from Eczema and Psoriasis, but I have found that if I soak in the bath, it brings the lumps up worse. Also, I feel that 2 - 3 baths/showers a week is enough, I think if we wash too often, we lose many of the good bacteria that live on the skin. (you know Im an old hippy guys, just lash on that patchouli :lol:) Much the same as I take the probiotics to reintroduce the good bacteria inside, killed by all the antibiotics. |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 17, 2003, 11:50:20 PM
:hi:
Celery .. Why is It that good ole Hippies love patchouli Oil.?
Having always been around this era and culture I was always amazed at all the patchouli soap, Incence, oil etc I often wondered.. .. I could sell in those days anything i could get my hands on that said Patchouli.. Really It is a very harsh oil and in neat essential can present problems..
I am pleased this thread has been rekindled ..
I am a hot on the problems of water and skin conditions and I am covinced withhout any doubt that the main problem here is the Chlorine that the councils bung in the water supplies.. It just inflames and irritates any skin condition..
Also.. Local swimming baths present the same problems..
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 18, 2003, 08:42:55 AM
I used to live in a hippy community when i was 18+ , the older women told me, that the patchouli goes back to the Free love era (use yer imagination ;)) few wash facilities at festivals. ::) I find people either love or hate it, but if you love the smell, then its quite an aphrodisiac(sp) mixed with sweat on the opposite sex, I like it even better with a little orange oil to sweeten..... For me now its also remeniscent of when I met my hubby, I used to use it neat, he hated it ??? but I'd been using it so long, i think it was in my blood and ingrained through my clothes......now he loves it, not much choice :lol: Cor I'm waffling on this morn....sorry :-[ As for the chlorine, I have read many posts on the HS site of our peops finding great relief from the chlorine, its just embarressment that stops them going to the pools. I know quite a lot in warmer climates have invested in hot tubs...and regular 'shock'? (add extra chlorine) for great relief. They are much worst than myself tho. |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 18, 2003, 09:58:25 AM
:hi:
Thanks Celery.. You are a gem.
You have further enforced my bleating on about the chlorine.. Thankyou..
As a P sufferer I need everything to be kept moist . I never let my skin dry as thats when all the problems start. The Chlorine is pure hell. It just sucks any moisture and natural oils from any skin and irritates and inflames the situation no end.
I understand with HS that the opposite is required so thats why the chlorine works ..
Funny old world Celery. Ok Patchouli.. Thanks for that as well.. I have always been bemused by This oil.. I understand that even the good ladys all used this and also Cleopatra which is where It all came from .. I Guess.. It overpowered all odours .. Yes it grows on you .. and yes the orange oil mixed would be excellent..
Has me reminissing.. I used to, In my misspent Youth import boxes of patchouli soap from India and sell it to all the communes in Queensland and NSW . They used to buy boxes of It from me . That and sandelwood .. I had an old Kombi and used to load it up and off I went .. great days..
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 18, 2003, 12:06:38 PM
Wow fish, you sure have a cool life :nod: maybe I will too, when the kids grow up a bit, never been abroad :shake: Now can I pick your brain for another wacky idea, i value your opinion, and you spell so well ;)
warning, here goes with the yucky bit ??? About the chlorine, I read from the HS site this drying out theory, and yes, like you, can see the logic in this. Im sure I mentioned a few times my recent 5 month flare ;) :lol: The biggest problem was a lump that would swell up to golfball size, just when you think your gonna die (and you know by now what a drama queen i am) it bursts, more goo than i care to mention, an awwwwwwww the relief...after a few days its dryed up, but it doesnt go away, starts filling up again....and again......in 10 day cycles. This is the one they want to cut out. My recent visit to the derm, she tells me thats its not that I produce too much oil, but that the pores are larger and thicker than other peoples and prone to blocking. Y'know I'd started on the EOils, i thought I'd try an keep the area moist see what happened. I am no expert, but I feel this has helped me alot. That lump doesnt fill up anymore <weyhey> BUT it leaks all the time now, and its raw but managable if i dress it, much more bearable than the swelling. Also no cellulitis or flu like symtoms..... Do you think Saunas would help? Altho advice to HS'ers is 'not to sweat ' :lol:
Anyways waffling again, ee sorry everyone I cant stop rabbitting today :-X Im just confused now, was it the oils? coming off the pill? less stress? I'v cut down the showers to 2/3 times a week (I fear I was getting obsessive) And like I'v said, you guys have really lifted my spirits ??? ??? ??? I know that its just fantastic to feel better, I'd just like to know how to avoid further heavy flares. I would just like a fresh opinion on it from anyone please
So sorry for completely taking over this thread :-X
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 18, 2003, 10:07:32 PM
:hi:
Celery ..
Ok .. I need to get my head around this one ..
I will do a Little Home work on this and then respond to your Question.. Ok .. hang in there , I am just going over all you have said so I understand things better and can give you a better response.
I like the way that you are thinking outside the square .. Often the answers are there , It"s a matter of perhaps looking at things in a totally different way.
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 19, 2003, 07:24:03 AM
| Thanks Fish, I wait patiently for your opinion :nod: ;D |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 19, 2003, 09:26:31 AM
:hi:
Hi Celery ..
Thanks for being so patient .. Bit busy today..
Ok here Goes .. I have given a lot of thought to what you say here and I don't think your ideas are all that wacky to be honest ..
The way I see things is that there are a few seperate issues here which you pose and I believe possibly taking a look at them on there own would be the way I would go..
I would break things down to 3 areas of concern in order of importance.
The Prevention of any possible infection
The Drying and clearing of fluid from the lesion.
The Developement /growth and reduction/changes of the lesion..
Then I would address each area ..
(1) Infection .. Ok .. ask yourself questions .. Is the area infected .. am I vigilant re infection .. What steps have I taken to prevent any possible infection..etc.. Look at the meds you are on . are they effective re combating infection. what antibiotics am I taking ..
(2) Drying .. Ok ask yourself questions .. Is the lesion dry .. are the meds I am using effective here in drying and absorbing all fluids and weeping . Is this aspect under control or not .. etc ..
(3) Growth .. Ok Ask yourself questions .. Is this under control . what exactly is happening.. what meds are you using to control this and are they effective or not.. etc.
Answers to these questions should give you some starting points and should let you see a clearer picture emerging . It should also let you see which area is not responding to any treatment and what perhaps you need to look at more quickly..
Have a look at those areas and come back with some answers and feedback Celery .. Step by step
Here are my initial thoughts ..
Infection .. Ok.. major importance .. make sure there is no chance of any infection . I find that the best antiseptic and antibiotic ointment is Tea Tree Ointment. Use the ointment not the oil. the oil should not be used on or near open or weeping wounds or broken skin. Be proactive here ..
Drying .. Ok.. look to use a drawing or drying agent or paultice .. and dress the lesion with this etc..Check your options , ask questions etc .. I would possibly go for a poultice type product that draws and absorbs .. Similar to that used for boils.. By continually drawing the gunk out in theory you should find the area eventually drying out..
Growth / control of lesion.. Ok .. You need to look at why this is happening. is this a problem with the sweat glands , Is it some form of sebaceous cyst and secreating because it is drawing fluid perhaps from another area that is not doing its job..Is there a definite blockage .. Where is the fluid comming from . Is it from the bile ducts or one of the lymph nodes or glands .?? Are the skin pores in fact blocked ? Have a ponder at these areas and see what you come up with..
Ok I have babbled on here but just thought I would offer these ideas for you to go over Celery and then perhaps pose a few more questions . Others will also respond I am sure ..
It is also I feel important to make sure that any toxins and poor fluids and blood etc have no interuptions from passing through the correct channels and that the good stuff has a clear passage through to your kidneys so you should perhaps make sure there is no infection or blockage in the lymphatic glands and bile ducts..
Celery .. A good ointment to use for reducing cysts and lesions is Thuja ointment. Are you using the e oils to do this or are you using them to test out the moist theory .. ?
I hope you can sift through all this .. I am getting as bad with the waffle ..
Often just taking things a step at a time and just thinking through things in a different way presents some facinating solutions and you see things forming a pattern ..
Hope this may give you some new ideas and a fresh approach ..
Never stop asking questions ..
Hope now that I have not cluttered up all your thinking..
Fish
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Teodora on May 19, 2003, 10:54:08 AM
| As far as I rememeber it is called LINOLAFET BATH OIL( it is a german brand but he couldn't find it in England).I will post soon again the exect name and the firm that produces it.It is water dispersible(doesn't stay on the surface of the water like a greasy spot) and has a nice pine aroma.it is available here in Bulgaria for approx.4 UK pounds. he just loves it. It is applicable for skin conditions like excema,psoriasis and the like.I agree with Celery about the bacterias...but for him everything works exactely the opposite way !(I am not saying that the bacteria stays;)) but the baths just soften his skin and he gets rid of the flakes. The only thing that worries me that it contains a medication and he has to have breaks but he enjoys it too much....Hugs to all of u! |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Teodora on May 19, 2003, 01:26:33 PM
Nick as i promosed the exact brand is - Linola fett Olbad by Wolff-Arzneitmittel / Bielefeld.
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 19, 2003, 06:14:59 PM
:hi: Hi Fish, cor thanks :D lots to think about there.....
Infection: Its another baffling thing about HS, only 50% of swabs come back having grown any cultures. All 6 of mine came back clear. I arnt on any long term Antibiotics. i was prescribed some but decided against it. If theres no infection, why would i need them? They only work for a while, and I'm trying to be natural and building back up my normal gut cultures. Stappoccocolis (sp) is a common bacteria in HS, when culture does grow. I know when a lump is infected, spreading red patch,very ill with cellulitis and flu like, take Cipro antibiotic short term, works great for now. Point taken on the TT oinkment, I'll try that one :D
Drying: Was informed by 'Boots' pharmacy 2 months ago, that they no longer are allowed to sell 'boileaze' and other drawing agents, I need to ask my doctor ??? <here we go round in circles> So, using no meds on it, cant squeeze anything out EWWW just clean it with water, dress it and it weeps away. Looking really dodgy, hole getting bigger. Considering Honey dressings or maggots ?
Growth: the sweat glands are specifically the pheromone producers, thats why HS effected areas are basically the erogeonous Zones. Please tell me what exactly a sebacious cyst is ? I think it is the pores that are blocked as all the areas are scattered with blackheads. I've had my lower bowel checked <o god, that was awful :'( > How would I find out if its coming from bile ducts, lymph nodes?
Another thought was, Ive had blood tests for thyroid & diabetes, does anything else spring to mind that causes boils?
Thanks Fish, it really helps to have some order to work through all that info swimming round in my head ??? I feel Im getting somewhere at last, and now Iv met my dermo, Im back in 10 weeks, and she is very open to any of my suggestions, its an opertunity to try things.
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: missmash on May 19, 2003, 08:33:52 PM
CP... if Boots are allowed (if not GP will prescribe - mine does) then try Magnesium sulphate creme.. this is the drawing agent i use and have had fantastic results with troublesome lesions that just keep weeping.. seems to get rid of the icky - allowing it to heal - pretty quickly.
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Alison on May 19, 2003, 08:38:59 PM
im totally blown away here by you guys wealth of knowledge :) :up:
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 19, 2003, 09:11:28 PM
| Thanks Jo ;D I'll give that a try |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 19, 2003, 11:57:33 PM
:hi:
Celery ..
I will Post again for you a little later .. Ok
Just going to go back over things for you and look closely at your replies before commenting on them . Ok
I hope This is helping .. Take your Time over each Issue and look at the various reasons and options and stay focussed . Things will emerge that will become clearer ..
Others will come on board with little ideas so dont rush things and just sit back and take things slow for a bit and digest things objectively . Ok
keep your chin up .. :hug: patience is a virtue. you are asking the right questions ..
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: missmash on May 20, 2003, 06:33:31 AM
CP.. another good product (and you can just buy it) is manuka honey.. it needs to have been rated - and irradiated preferably - but can be applied directly to any wound. As i have posted before i have had wonderful results with this natural product on cleaning out wounds and it helps too with the scarring - keeps it down and has also made mine a lighter shade of that purple/black scarring that seems to accompany HS..
Jo |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 20, 2003, 07:10:21 AM
:hi:
Gidday Celery..
Sorry I am a bit drawn out with my replies.. I just jump on when I have finished my work ..
Ok .. I will try and not be too long winded ..
Sebaceous Cysts.. Nodules or small growths/lesions that usually are flexable and just under the skin etc. They are filled with fatty residue and oily fluids/pus which has usually eminated from the sebaceous glands .. I have known them to attach to the bone if left and usually you can move or wriggle them .. sometimes the can be hard.. Often they will disperse and break up , sometimes they need lancing and taking out .. Depends on how uncomfortable they are .. The fluids and so on may be toxic waste and is usually a clear sign that there is a blockage or problem somewhere else in the system.
Drawing .. Ok . Few points here .. Personally I would have a look at the various options .. Jo mentions a couple on this thread .. I am in favour of the poultice type and a natural one .. I would just sit on this for a few days and lets see .. maybe run through the options at say the end of the week and rate the pros and cons..
Preventing the infection .. Ok I am not keen on these maggots :shake:
I would go for the Manuka Honey or the tea tree ointment here ..
As you will no doubt know I have done a lot of research on the honey .. I have posted on the forum about This and I know now that a gause pad impregnated with It is available ..
Point to remember here .. re Infection .. bacteria of most types will survive and grow in water and various body fluids .. You will not kill or control bacteria using a water based antiseptic .. Oils and ointments plus the honey will kill them , they will not survive..
Ok .. In normal situations If you have a Lesion, Cyst, Pore and Sweet or Weeping problem of any type It means that there is a problem elsewhere .. Ie It's a very very good indication that the problem will be in one of the following areas .. Lymph Nodes, Lymph glands, Bile Ducts, Sebaceous Glands, Bladder, Kidney.
The problem usually manifests itself as a blockage, Infection of some type, or an imbalance of some type in the blood system. .
I will expand on this a little later as a seperate addition .. I need to think on how best to explain in simple terms and more clearly.. This is the key .. You ask Celery How to determine The checking of bile ducts etc .. I am not a medical person so I will think a bit and try and clarify later with simple words .. I will try my best ..
basically We are now into the old Cause and Effect Theory ..
To establish the cause of anything One needs to study the effects and determine the where the problem arises .. I know that sounds all back to front but ..
Sometimes Celery .. Logic does not apply..
. Hope that Gives you a little more to ponder..
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 20, 2003, 09:11:44 AM
Thanks Fish ;D I apprieciate you sparing your time, I know your a busy guy :D
Well, I'm gonna mull all this over, if only I could pop a disc in my head and run program ???
I'm liking the idea of the Honey.....and bees are so cute credit to Jo too :D
And as far as the 'logic doesnt allways apply' :( well thats just not fair !!
Celery :crazy:
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 20, 2003, 11:00:03 AM
And as far as the 'logic doesnt allways apply' :( well thats just not fair !!
Celery :crazy:
:roll: :roll: Yes I Like That Celery..
Sometimes you have to turn things upside down to make sense eh ..
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 20, 2003, 12:00:11 PM
:hi:
Hi Celery..
Ok I will have a go at applying this back to front logic..
I will use your naughty lesion as the example here.. although you could apply this to any cyst etc..
If the lesion or Cyst is swollen or weeping or showing signs of growth then in most circumstances there will more often be a problem causing that somewhere in the bodies fluid/filtering system .. You should be then looking at one or all of the following areas.. Lymphatic system (either glands or nodes), Sebaceous glands, Bile Ducts or the bladder.
Lymphatic System . If this is there is swelling or soreness in either the glands or the nodes this usually indicates that either a blockage or an infection . The effects will be poor flow of filtering fluids , or a back flow of fluid causing a build up of toxins , fatty tissue and other matter . The system is not wanting this muck to be filtered through the blood system to the kidneys so It basically stops it . Buildup causes a blockage and this often tries to escape through the weakest wall in the various glands hence It pushes out in a cyst or lump or lesion depending on the gland..
same situation with the sebaceous glands . Which I guess would be your area of concern. If there is some infection in the system then you will find the cyst or lesion will usually be infected..
Bit like when you take a garden hose and crimp it . Its blocked and the water pressure builds up and pops the damn thing off the tap or forces a leak in a weak part of the hose. Thats the easiest way to explain.
The Bile ducts act as the pre filter for the good blood to flow to the kidneys . Sometimes when the lymphatic system is infected with toxins the bile ducts in stopping the flow become themselves blocked ..
Bit like a blotting paper . Sometimes when the thing gets clogged and soaks up all it can it either won't let anything more through or in some cases it falls apart and lets all the gunk through .
A bladder infection will impact on the lymph nodes and in trying to let the filtered crook stuff and waste fluids through can back block and so on.
Thats pretty much what goes on and how things work etc in pretty basic terms..
So you can see what I mean by the (Cause and effect )..
To determine what the problem is and to solve it is the question ..
Usually practioners will treat the symptoms and then try and establish the cause .. Some say thats logic .. If you apply the lateral then why not turn things around and tackle the effects to establish the cause ..
So here what you need to do is work through all the possible things outlined .. Step by step one by one.
Go back to the hose .. Ok If you uncrimp the hose then the pressure will not build any more and It wont blow off the tap etc etc .
Same with say the bile ducts . and the blotting effect . Clean the filter or replace it etc etc and the bile ducts will then filter the gunk properly. same with the sebaceous glands and the lymph system . Clear the blockage and stop the infection and the fluids will flow correctly and the cysts and so on will reduce and disperse etc etc.
So there you go .. Now How you look at things and sort out where to start is what you will have to determine on the basis of what you establish as the problem Ie look at your lesion and then try and determine which of the areas ie . Sebaceous, lymph etc would be most likely the cause..
There You go .. Sorry if I now sound confusing .. But thats how I would be looking at things ..
I am sure others will toss in a few more things . Just ponder things and sit back and take your time . Take things one at a time and suss the ideas out and feel free to ponder more or pose questions but hopefully Some things here for you to toss about
The main thing is not to become impatient or try to do to many things all at once . Just sit back .. Look at the various options and possibilities and take your time.. and work through them methodically.
Goodo keep asking questions and I like the way you are tackling the problem.. There is always an answer somewhere ..
Fish
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Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 21, 2003, 09:03:16 AM
| >:( ...and after all my efforts to 'go natural' .... I had little Annie at the docs yesterday, she has an ear infection :( My docs a gudden, could see I was struggling with my arm and insisted on having a look, I got a telling off, and was sent home with some more Antibiotics. Just a 5 day course of the Cipro, which has been good for me in the past. So , Im gonna take em, see if it will kill off this troublesome one, once n for all. Then get back to my natural stuff. Feeling pretty right now, but its not for long...... |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: fishs on May 21, 2003, 11:28:41 AM
:hi:
::) I don't know Celery .. What are we going to do with you .. ::)
Sounds Like your Doc has got you sussed ..
Hope your Annie is on the mend..
Fish |
Title: Re:Too many baths?
Post by: Celery Peach on May 21, 2003, 11:53:36 AM
I know Fish ??? ???
Annies much better now shes had some Antis & Paracetamol, her only symptom is that she IS TALKING VERY LOUD :-X I need some ear plugs :D |
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