Topic: rash around eyes?

[augen]

Hi all-

I've been following this discussion and have found something that helps.  My eye rash started as a bit of raw skin at the outer corners where my eyes would tear, then spread to the fold of my upper eyelids, and now the entire undereye area of both eyes is painful, itchy, red, raw and puffy. It looks horrible and feels worse. This week, my doctor prescribed allergy relief tablets and eyedrops. While these effectively stop the itching, they do nothing for the redness or burning. In fact, the skin around my eyes has been getting increasingly sore and raw and the rash has deepened in color. So far, every creme or salve I've been given does little to reduce the redness and actually increases the puffiness.

Yesterday, when I couldn't stand it any more, the pharmacist gave me gel called "Corneregel" (active ingredient: Dexpanthenol). This stuff is amazing! It is far more soothing than anthing I've yet tried. I applied it several times in the afternoon, and then put on a good thick layer before going to bed. This morning the skin around my eyes is *considerably* less red and actually looks like it is healing! Yesterday it had the appearance of a severe burn, and today it is only mildly red. This gel does little to reduce the puffiness but, unlike cremes, it doesn't make it any worse.

I live in Germany, where pharmacists are essentally mini-doctors and are allowed to prescribe certain medications without a physician. I'm not sure if you need a prescription to get this gel in the US or elsewhere-- ask your pharmacist to look it up. Corneregel is manufactured by Bausch & Lombe, and distributed here in Germany by DeMann Pharma, but the brand name may be different in other countries. Your doctor or pharmacist should be able to find the equivalent in their cross-reference guide if they look for Dexpanthenol gel.

Good luck! Let us know if this works for you, too!

[Yaree]

Hi I'm new!
  About a month or so ago, I got this small red blotch under my right eye, just a small red blemish, no bumps just red under the skin, then as time went by it started to dry up some mornings and flake a little, it also spread around both top eyelids, at the edge of my eyebrows and small patches from under my eyes onto my cheeks. it's not very itchy at all, most of the time i can't even tell its there (until I look in the mirror and get a fright!), but there are no red bumps its just patchy flushed skin. Today was really hot out and it made it flare up more so I'm calling the doctor tommorow to try make an appointment because it's obviously not going away on it's own. Does anybody know what this most likely is? thankyou very much!

[Marcos]

Yaree you could have what we all have at the moment or it just could be a form of run of the mill dermatitis. If you go to a skin specialist they will be able to diagnose it better.

Also read the threads in this post to get an insight what people are doing to have there problem sorted out

[ckhess]

Hello!

I had the same condition for a couple of months that is being discussed here.  After reading the postings of possible reasons for the rash, I have found a solution that worked for me and I hope can help some of you.  I also tried lots of things - antibiotics, cortisone, moisturizer, benedril, etc.  Small temporary improvements but always came back and spread.

I could not figure out what brought on the rash, but some of the postings here helped me remember what happened when it started. There were several mentions of eye allergies - someone else mentioned that the rash got better when they went on vacation and were out of the office.  That triggered my memory - my eyes became irritated and red for a while about when the rash first appeared.  I don't know if this had something to do with the air conditioner in my office building, but could be since it was a change of seasons.  So I looked for something that might help lubricate my eyes.  Then I remembered that someone else mentioned mineral oil helped for a while.  Then I found a night-time eye ointment that is applied in the eye (under the lower lid) that helps to moisturize the eye and consist of about 45% mineral oil - there are several of these available, most with "PM" in the name.  I have been applying this for a little over a week and the rash is almost totally gone.

I hope this can help someone because I know how frustrating it was.  Thanks for all the posts and for helping me find a solution!

[Wolfspirit]

Hi, I also sometimes get rash from eczema around my eyes especially after wearing make up,and I had it very bad last year, turned out I was allergic to new necklace I was given for my birthday, it was mostly made from nickle and silver, I am fine with silver and white gold, but not yellow gold.

[albieeinstein]

Greetings,

I also have the condition described above. It started with a single red spot to the right of my right eye then spread, and now it has affected both the skin around both eyes, mainly beneath and to the temple area.
I went to see a dermatologist, hoping that a simple solution existed. Well, I am naive no more. Occasionally, I have red blotches that show up on my face that come and go. They've been there for many years and don't really bother me. When I went to the dermatologist, unfortunately, I had just such a flare-up, which caused him to link the "rash" around the eyes to the red blotches, diagnosing the whole condition as seborrheic dermatitis. I informed him that the two conditions are not related but he didn't buy into it. He prescribed Desonide, but said not to use it around my eyes, because it thins the skin. So, I went out, bought some Selsun Blue and got rid of the seborrheic dermatitis. However, the shampoo did nothing for the red spots under my eyes. I started using the Desonide (around the eyes, against recommendation) and it worked. It made the red spots disappear, replacing them with slight skin discoloration that look like a healing burn. It looked a lot better than having those red spots on my face but wasn't really a solution. Eventually, I had to stop using it though, since the skin did become thin. Everytime I went for a jog, the area of application was extremely flushed and that looked even scarier that the red spots in the first place. I stopped using the stuff and the spots came back. Follow up with the dermatologist went as follows: "Desonide works? Great! Thanks for stopping by! Follow up as necessary." So while the derm is raking in 200 bucks per visit I get nothing nothing useful out of it.
Yesterday, I decided to try to sweat it out. I cranked up the sauna to full power and sat there for twenty minutes. In the evening I tried the hot compress on the area. I'll keep this regimen up for a while and see if that beats it into submission. I'll let you know how it goes.

[ouchy]

I have something similar to what everyone is describing, but it happens at my apartment and at my mother-in-law's house.  I have been staying at my parents' house because that is the only place my eyes get better.  I though it was an allergy to some kind of airborne irritant, so I went to the allergy clinic.  I found out that I am allergic to grass, grees, cats, dogs, mold, etc.  What is strange is that most of those things are at my parents' house.  I had ezcema for 27 years, but it has never been this bad before.  It's all over my face, neck and arms.  I went over to my apartment to get my stuff and was ony in there for less than 30 minutes.  After that, I had a huge flare-up of my symptoms, especially of my irritated eyes.  I have no idea what is causing it.  My doctor prescribed Allegra.  He also suggested soaking my body in water, including my eyes.  It doesn't seem to be working.  If anyone has an idea what I can do, I would really appreciate it.'

Thanks!   

[Marcos]

It has been a long time since my last post and since then I have been trialling a few things. After numerous products I found a cure for me, which was a product called Minomycin. The product is a anti-acne and also anti-inflammatory product which was supplied by my Dermatologist. 

[scutofwump]

I have been having the same problem myself. It seems many people have been ( which makes me wonder ). Mine began a little more than a month ago, it is a series of bumps that variey from reddening and thickening to lightening and almost diminishing. sometimes it hurts, especially if it gets wet. It just appeared out of no where, and is not underneith both of my eyes but just under my left eye and follows the complete turn of the under eyelid. I have no allergies, and do not have psoriasis or eczema . Does anyone have any ideas what it could be?

[Margarita4u]

This is really strange, I have this exact same problem!  It makes me wonder too Scutofwump 

Why are all these people complaining of the same problem?  It's so odd.  Mine started as a spot at the corner of my right eye too and now it's a bunch of little red dots all around the corners and underneath both eyes.  I really thought of it as just some nuisance at first but, like the others, mine seems to be getting worse 

[scutofwump]

is it as its "hard to see stage" at the moment, but you can still see a view of it, i willget one up when it flares up again

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[sallee77]

Hi there

Some of what is being described here sounds like a condition I've just been diagnosed as having, perioral dermatitis.  As it sounds this is usually found around the mouth, however some people experience it around the eyes also. 

Mine started as a tiny dry patch at the outer corner of one eye.  6 months later it has now spread and is around both eyes, between my eyebrows and on both upper and lower eyelids.  It now consists of lots of little red bumps, and quite often I have tiny white-head pimples in the rash also. At the moment it is very painful, even to blink.

Check out http://www.skincell.org/yabbse/index.php/topic,19845.0.html, Lou Lou has posted links to some sites that contain great pics, you may find them useful to try and match what you see on your skin.

Really important thing to note is that if you are using steroid creams prescribed for eczema they may actually be causing perioral dermatitis, or making it worse if you have been misdiagnosed with eczema.  I have just stopped using diprosone and sigmacort that I had previously been prescribed and my condition has flared up quite badly, however the dermatolgist warned this may happen for a couple of weeks .  I've now been prescribed antibiotics that I will have to take for a few months.

My advice is to see a specialist if you can, or a GP who has an interest in dermatology. I wasted 6 months visiting GPs who incorrectly diagnosed my problem, and, in doing so, have made my skin so much worse by prescribing the wrong medication.

Hope this info will be helpful to some
take care

sallee

[ex-rashy eyes]

rash eyes don't wrry about anything because there is a cure now.....just dnt touch it ...moisterize it...or scratch it...just pretend its not there because i have this rash thing under my eyes and it is quite fading away..it might look dry but thats 4 the best take my advise 4 a couple of days and see how it helps ..

ps *if it gets a bit 2 dry but natural oils on it just half a teaspoon example:olive oil etc..

[DENEICY]

There's a web ring for people with the eye crud.  Mine swell up but definitely have the worst at the edges like yours.  Mine started with exposure to dust and mold,as I recall.  I'm using EMU OIL by Jurassic Secret and it seems to soothe. Wite me at email address removed if you want to know what I've tried.

Don't put warm compresses on your eyes. Use cool. Warm will dry out your cheeks.

Good luck.

[DENEICY]

After being exposed to a great deal of allergens, I developed some skin problems AND swollen eyes. Don't know if my experience will be helpful, but I found successful home remedy thru another site's discussion on the eye issue.  Most of the people had SWOLLEN eye lids, not the rash you described.

I saw a photograph of someone with an eczema-related eye condition whose eye looked exactly like mine. The upper and lower lids were totally swollen and there was a dark circle around the eye, like dark eye shadow. ANd the eye itched at the outer edges, became moist with tears and eventually chapped and red, then would crust.  THe cyle continued for me for several MONTHS.

I finally STOPPED this a week ago...awakening finally with no swollen eyes...with a simple home remedy. Mind you, I'd been to the ER, my primary doc, a dermatologist and finally an opthomologist who prescribed antibiotic and cortisone ointments, which did nothing.

The remedy that seems to have really helped this is NIZORAL AD Anti-dandruff shampoo!   

I followed the instructions of people at the message board. You just apply it to the eye lids and lashes and brow and leave it on for a minute or so, then wash off...yes! keep your eyes CLOSED. Don't get it in your eyes.

Don't know if this wouldhelp you at all....but it sure helped me.

I woke up efvery day for months worried about how my eyes would look. I could wear no makeup. I was embarrassed to be seen in public. I looked 20 years older because the condition caused my eye to be so wrinkled.

Sigh...I found my cure, I think.

Now...the rascally itchy elbow and knee are next!
  and that's why I'm here.

Whatever this is, I feel it was initiated by an allergic reaction....maybe complicated by low thyroid and menopause.

I'm also going to check levels of candida albans in my blood, because I had three runs of different antibiotics, related to treatments for the eye.  Developed UTI  and yeast infections, also related to being menopausal.

Deneicy in san diego

[Antony72]

Hi,
  I have been suffering a rash around the eyes / bridge of nose, which sounds similar to some of the posts here. It seemed to flare up overnight, and fade away during the day. It started out as pimples/acne-like problems between my eyebrows/bridge of nose. As it became worse, my eyelids swelled slightly, with small pimples appearing on the eyelids. It then worsened further as the skin under my eyes became inflamed. See attached pic. Very unsightly.

I have been seeing a naturopath, as they can check for lots of potential causes (next appt. tomorrow). Based on my naturopath's advice, and my own research, I have tried excluding yeast, dairy and wheat for the last couple of days.

Things appear to be improving significantly.

As it turns out, these ingredients are in many foods. I have modified my diet, whilst continuing to enjoy my food by:

o Buying rye bread, which is free of wheat, yeast and dairy. In Australia, I am buying "Ancient grains, Organic Rye, Nippur rye grind, sourdough" made by Raffles Healthy Foods, VIC. Call 03 9720 6857 to find out where you can buy it in your state (I'm in South Australia). I have a couple of slices for breakky - much better than white bread! It also makes a nice snack by itself, warmed in the microwave.

o Drinking black coffee at work rather than coffee with milk - not that bad, no fat, next to no calories.

o Eat vegetarian sushi rolls for lunch (yum!)

o Eat rice + vegies (capsicum / sweet corn / peas / charlottes) for dinner - when starting out - this does not constitute a balanced diet! Tasty though.

o Drinking lots of water (probably 1.5L-2L/day) to help the nasties flush out.

This is an "exclusion diet" - Google for it.

If things settle down, then you can slowly introduce the excluded foods to see which ones have an adverse effect. I saw an improvement within 2 days. I check every morning to see how I'm going....

You're reading this, so you're on the right track because you're self-educating

I shall report as I learn more.

Good luck,
  Antony.


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[DENEICY]

Try NIZORAL anti-dandruff shampoo.   Amazingly, three applications cured my eye rash....which had plagued me for over two months.  I'd seen a dermatologist and opthamologist, the emergency room, urgent care, and my primary physicians almost weekly for HELP...they had me using all sorts of unhelpful ointments and DANGROUS levels of cortisone cream.  I did a google search and found some old site with seveal hundred messages from people with this condition. Many of them reported success with the shampoo. You jjust put some suds on your eyes, focusing around the lashes and brow, and where you feel that itching.  It worked for me.  When I feel any itching, I use it for a few days.

NOTE: Keep it OUT of the eyes.  Just apply to the lids and those blotchy areas.  It is very SOOTHING.

Reported the success to the dermatologist who said, "yeh, they discovered some surprising uses" for the chemical component of the shampoo....it's "anti-inflammatory." Sure whish he'd told me about it before I used all that CRAP and took all the antibioltics...that produced the yeast infections and bladder infection, etc.  It was a mucking fess, believe me.


ANyway....best of luck to you!! Let me know if this works for you. It sure did the trick for me.

I awoke every morning, never knowing if I'd feel like going public.  Some days my eyes were so swollen, I looked like a frog, and it kept jumping from eye to eye.

I also changed detergent and got ALL free in case it was allergens.  I also have a new rash above an elbow and knee on my sleeping side....looking at possibility of scabies from mites.

 

[hork]

Your conditions sound similar to mine.  Applying a little bit of tolnaftate cream USP 1% worked for me - it was gone within a day or two.  Tolnaftate is the same thing as Tinactin, but I saved myself $7 or so by buying the generic version at the 99 cent store.

Disclaimers:  I am not suggesting that you try this, I am simply stating what worked for me.  I am not a health professional, and this was not suggested to me by a health professional.  It might have just been a coincidence that the skin near my eye got better the day after I applied the cream to the area.  My skin problem may be different than what some of you have experienced; my skin got a little spotty, inflamed and crusty, but it never bled, and you might not want to apply the cream to broken skin.  Do not put tolnaftate cream into your eye.  Do not buy tolnaftate as an aerosol and spray it into your eye.  Obviously, anything you try that is not suggested by a health professional is done at your own risk.  Read all the directions and warnings on the label.

[Margarita4u]

Finally managed to snap a pic of this strange beast today



It doesn't itch at all but that monster of a blob is very unsightly and it moves around, has good days and bad days but never goes away compeletly, I haven't tried anything on it yet, guess I'm scared I'll make it worse 

[anthropositor]

Gee Margarita,
I don't have HS, but that rash, so close to the eye, particularly if it has been going on for quite a while, is pretty worrisome.  If it was me, I'd just have to try something!  I would probably start with a little mix of yogurt and coconut oil, lightly applied at bedtime on the theory that it is a fairly benign action that doesn't involve steroids or antihistamines or antibiotics.  I have applied both yogurt and coconut oil to my skin separately at different times, with no ill effects.  Currently my skin is better than it has been for years.  But once again, I do not have HS.  Whatever you do, be cautious.
Anthro