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Re: rash around eyes?
« Reply #100 on: Friday August 11, 2006, 12:21:27 PM »
Thanks for the suggestion Anthro!  :hugs:

I will try that and let you know how it goes.  ;D

Since it isn't an HS area and I'm not currently taking anything for HS I'm not too worried about any HS reactions.  You are right though, I need to get off my butt and try something  :P 

I know for a fact that it's not a reaction to any lotions or makeup at all because I simply do not now, nor have I ever worn makeup or done much with creams. 

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« Reply #101 on: Saturday August 26, 2006, 01:56:47 AM »
...and I dont think I would be using Nizoral products until I was sure that some kind of fungal infection was involved.  It may have anti-inflamatory effects under some conditions, but it is a fungicide.
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Re: rash around eyes?
« Reply #102 on: Sunday September 03, 2006, 09:27:53 PM »
Hiya
I get the same thing.....raised red bumps around the sides of my eyes....can feel sore/itchy. Not sure if you're reacting to the same thing as me but I've just finished patch testing and have been told I'm allergic to Nickel and Rosin (Colophonium) both of which are found in almost everything you come in contact with from zippers to paper to shoes to screws that hold your glasses together (do you ever where shades or glasses?) My allergy is acute and affects my whole body - you could have a milder version maybe. The only thing I can do is carry Elocon cream around with me and treat it as it happens. It's not a nice cream (heavy steroid type stuff) and you have to use it really sparingly but it's the only thing that helps me.
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« Reply #103 on: Monday October 23, 2006, 06:55:54 PM »
Well I think I might have found an answer off another website, I guess it does affect other areas of the face. Time to go see a dermatolagist hopefully it is the same thing I had before just in a different area because it is very treatable:
Perioral Dermatitis
I. Definition:

Perioral dermatitis is a rash composed of tiny red bumps that are primarily around the mouth, but can also be seen around the nose and on other areas of the face.

 

II. Causes:

    * Perioral dermatitis is a disease that occurs mostly in young and middle-aged women.
    * Perioral dermatitis can be caused by prolonged therapy with topical corticosteroids (hydrocortisones).
    * The contraceptive pill, cosmetic usage and emotional stress can worsen perioral dermatitis.
    * Toothpaste containing lauryl sulfate may cause perioral dermatitis.
    * The affected area is often worsened by sunlight and almost always by wind, heat, chlorinated pool water and even by washing with hot water.
    * If you have this condition, premenstrual flare ups are common.

 

III. Treatment:

    * The first step in treating perioral dermatitis is to discontinue all topical corticosteroids.
    * Toothpaste without lauryl sulfate can be purchased from Squigle, Inc. toll free at 877-718-0718.
    * Oral tetracyclines four times a day for about three weeks is a successful source of treatment. Minocin and doxycycline are also effective treatments.
    * There is no medicine that you can apply directly to the skin which will help perioral dermatitis.


I just wanted to thatnk IZ.  I did some more research on your suggested diagnosis and it turns out to be exactly what i had.  I actually had it around my mouth and just thought I was breaking out for months and months.  Now my eyes are as described in the 1st post.  Turns out it can go there too.  I went to the doctor today and they prescribed an antibiotic.  He said that creams and such can irritate it more and to just lay off the moisturizers and eye creams and such.  Anyway- Thanks so much!!!!!

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« Reply #104 on: Saturday November 04, 2006, 01:00:47 AM »
Hi,

I have been reading this thread and just had to join and share my story. I have mild execema, mainly behind my knees and patches on my arms and chest. It comes and goes. I had mild acne when I was younger. That is the extent of my skin problems. However, I am pretty much allergic to anything outside. I have hay fever, allergic to trees and grass and pollen and fur, feathers... some reactions are stronger than others. If I come in contact with any of these things, I will get a mild rash on my skin that goes away pretty soon after the allergen is removed.

That's the background. Here is the story...

One day I went to buy laundry detergent and went for Purex because it was on sale. I had never tried it before. But it was on sale! I went home and washed two loads of laundry. Later in the week, I had intense itching all over my body. Already knowing I had a mild reaction to coconuts, and had ate some coconut shrimp that week, I thought I was having a bad reaction to coconuts. However, I soon narrowed it down to the Purex detergent! After my doctor (internal medicine) prescribed some flucinide (sp?) (which did nothing but burn) and I rewashed all my clothes, I began to get better. However, a week of rubbing my face with contaminated towels irritated my skin and I began to scratch my face at times. I soon developed a rash around my eyes which made me look old and tired. I tried to put make-up over it but it didn't help because my skin wasn't smooth. I felt so hideous and wore sunglasses in public. But the worse was yet to come.

I went online and searched for answers to the rash around my eyes, knowing that the flucinide burned like hell. The earliest I could get a dermatology appointment was two weeks later. So I found a site that said Neosporin might clear up the rash. Oh joy! I had Neosporin in my cabinet. I put a liberal amount on the rash and went to bed. I woke up at 3 am feeling like a heavy weight was on my face. I went to the bathroom and looked in the mirror and saw a horrific site. The rash had become swollen! Now I looked like I had two black eyes! I tried to go back to sleep but called off work and got a same day appointment to the dermatologist (I basically had to cry to the appointment nurse on the phone). The dermatologist was shocked to see my face, but told me I had an allergic reaction to Neosporin (which I never knew I was allergic to). Now I had to take two more days off work and take steriods (predisone) to ease the swelling and put ointment (desonide) on to smooth out the rash. After a few days the swelling was gone, and after a week or so the rash was gone but ugly blotches remain where the rash was. After a follow up to the dermatologist, I found out the blotches would not go away for at least 3 months. So that's where I am now, with blotches around my eyes, using the fade cream recommended by the derm to fade the spots. Except a small rash is developing so I am back to using the desonide to smooth out the rash. I think the fade cream is causing a reaction! But you can't use too much of the desonide because it thins the skin.

I'll post pics when I get a chance. I just really want my face back!



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Re: rash around eyes?
« Reply #105 on: Saturday November 04, 2006, 01:31:33 AM »
jazzybelle,
that is tough yet it sounds like you may have the upper hand...good luck

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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday November 07, 2006, 12:20:08 PM »
I am an 18 year old male from Connecticut. I have a rash as described in this forum. I first got it alittle over a year ago and don't know why it started. I first went to the doctor and he diagnosed it as Impetigo. I had recieved an oral antibiotic and a steroid cream. The cream seemed to get rid of the rash quickly, but it always came back! After a while it seemed to come back and I tried to cream again. The cream seemed to sometimes work and sometimes not. I went back to my doctor and he said it might be eczema and he prescribed Elidel. I used it and it seemed to work just like the steroid cream. When the cream seemed like it wasn't working I just stopped with everything and the rash went away again for a while. It has recently been showing up.

I have alergies and while in bed my eyes sometimes water. I have noticed when touching the area around my eyes it seems to get worse and sometimes give it to me when previously not there. I am going to try using my allergry eye drops before bed. My hair is also pretty long, but I don't think it has anything to do with it because even when my hair is not long...I get this rash. I will try to wear a hat to bed or something.

I am willing to try anything to get rid of this rash. Its so annoying and embarrassing. If anyone has any other ideas along with posting them hear email them to me email address removed (as I may not have much time to check out this site often). I will also try to get some pictures of the rash when it seems to be bad!
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Re: rash around eyes?
« Reply #107 on: Monday November 20, 2006, 10:05:31 AM »
I some questions for those of you with this rash. Does Asthma run in your family? Do you have any known alergies? Does the area often get itchy before the rash shows up? If all of you could answer these questions it would be very helpful!!!
 

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« Reply #108 on: Tuesday November 21, 2006, 05:55:43 AM »
Hi all,

I joined the forum after reading this thread because I have been suffering from eczema around the eyes for the past couple months.

My eczema wasn't just isolated to a red rash around eyes, it was all over my face, and it was spreading slower over the days. I became some desperate that I decided to try every possible treatment I could find. What I ended up getting was:

1. Evening Primrose Oil (there are many medical studies saying that this does not work, however, I bought it before reading about the studies, so I've been using it still)
2. Fish Oil (it's good for you anyways)
3. Flaxseed Oil (same.. it's food, so it's good for you anyways!)
4. Mineral Oil / White Petroleum based eye lubricant / ointment - Lacri-Lube (this was from a tip earlier in this thread)

While I can't isolate exactly what I used to cure my symptoms, it seems like taking these daily for the past 3 or 4 days has gotten rid of the symptoms! As a start I would try the eye lubricant / ointment first, along with the flaxseed oil.

I would also try and eat healthier, cutting out possibly allergic foods such as seafood and processed foods like.. big macs :)

This is for sufferers of eczema, once again :)

Let me know if this helps! And thanks for all the information!
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« Reply #109 on: Tuesday November 21, 2006, 02:45:04 PM »
Well I think I might have found an answer off another website, I guess it does affect other areas of the face. Time to go see a dermatolagist hopefully it is the same thing I had before just in a different area because it is very treatable:
Perioral Dermatitis
I. Definition:

Perioral dermatitis is a rash composed of tiny red bumps that are primarily around the mouth, but can also be seen around the nose and on other areas of the face.

 

II. Causes:

    * Perioral dermatitis is a disease that occurs mostly in young and middle-aged women.
    * Perioral dermatitis can be caused by prolonged therapy with topical corticosteroids (hydrocortisones).
    * The contraceptive pill, cosmetic usage and emotional stress can worsen perioral dermatitis.
    * Toothpaste containing lauryl sulfate may cause perioral dermatitis.
    * The affected area is often worsened by sunlight and almost always by wind, heat, chlorinated pool water and even by washing with hot water.
    * If you have this condition, premenstrual flare ups are common.

 

III. Treatment:

    * The first step in treating perioral dermatitis is to discontinue all topical corticosteroids.
    * Toothpaste without lauryl sulfate can be purchased from Squigle, Inc. toll free at 877-718-0718.
    * Oral tetracyclines four times a day for about three weeks is a successful source of treatment. Minocin and doxycycline are also effective treatments.
    * There is no medicine that you can apply directly to the skin which will help perioral dermatitis.


I just wanted to thatnk IZ.  I did some more research on your suggested diagnosis and it turns out to be exactly what i had.  I actually had it around my mouth and just thought I was breaking out for months and months.  Now my eyes are as described in the 1st post.  Turns out it can go there too.  I went to the doctor today and they prescribed an antibiotic.  He said that creams and such can irritate it more and to just lay off the moisturizers and eye creams and such.  Anyway- Thanks so much!!!!!

Hello there

I was diagnosed with Perioral Dermatitis 6 months ago and I did have it very very severely.

I spent hours researching the condition, causes, treatments, after care etc so I do know lots about it. 

I was advised by my Dermatologist that some of the info I had gathered off the net was not correct. 

I asked my dermatologist about things like SLS being a trigger and he said that British Dermatologists do not agree that it is a cause.  Its best to remember that some websites are trying to sell products, I feel that "Squigle" product is one example.  I was going to get this myself but was advised there was no need.

I could go on for ages about the condition but rather than do that if anybody wants to ask me a question about my experience of the condition I would be more than happy to help. 

Alternatively, I have made many posts about my experience if you think that may be helpfull.  Its under "Perioral Dermatitis, anybody else had this?"

Here is the link to this thread: http://www.skincell.org/yabbse/index.php/topic,19845.msg247456.html#msg247456

Lou Lou
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« Reply #110 on: Thursday November 30, 2006, 07:59:22 AM »
I get my wife to take a few photos when my skin condition flares up.  You should take a few photos when the condition is at its worst and then show the 'evidence' to your derm.  I know what you mean though - it's typical that every time you go and see a doctor/specialist you look fine  ;)

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« Reply #111 on: Thursday November 30, 2006, 08:25:09 AM »
Hi Gregor

I have actually already done that, I did it since day one and have kept a comprehensive log of the different stages which I still update now!  In not a geek honest!

I didn't get to see the Hospital Derm until the rash had 95% gone (Before that I was seeing a GP who specialised in Derm....not quite the same).  By this time, all I had to show him was photos, but no Derm can 100% accurately diagnose from photos.

If it returns though I am able to see the Hospital Derm immediately so no more diagnosing from photos!

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Re: MY MIRACLE CURE! rash around eyes?
« Reply #112 on: Friday December 22, 2006, 02:00:24 AM »
Try NIZORAL anti-dandruff shampoo.   Amazingly, three applications cured my eye rash....which had plagued me for over two months. 

My skin around my eyes is itchy, very wrinkled and blotchy red.  Some days my eyes burn and water, but not always.  My eyes themselves are basically clear and look fine.  It is the skin surrounding the eye that is so troublesome.   It has been this way for three months.  Some days are worse than others, but it has been very bad most days.  I've never had this before. 

My Primary Care Physician said I could use hydrocortisone cream which gave me a shiny face and helped a bit with itching and dryness.  He was really no help and kept thinking it was new make up or moisturizer, all of which I had ruled out weeks before I went to see him.   ::)    My neighbor has this too (weird) and her doctor said it is allergies - as in hayfever - which it clearly isn't.  Especially since it is 12 degrees and snowy here - not alot of pollen out and about. 

I tried the Nizoral shampoo after reading about it on this site.  I put some on last night, this morning and then again this evening.  After I put it on, I let it sit a few minutes then rinsed it off.  My skin in some ways is worse than ever.  The wrinkles are a bit better but the skin is redder and rougher.  I also have swollen bumps beneath each eye that are much more pronounced than before.  In short, I look hideous!!  :o   I wonder if I am leaving it on too long, using it too often, or using too much?  I'd be curious to know if the three applications mentioned in the quoted post above were over three days and if it got worse before it got better?

I planned to see a dermatologist, but after reading on this site, I fear my condition may be difficult to correctly diagnose and that it may be a waste of time and money.

I know there have not been many new posts to this topic lately, but if anyone has any ideas (or sympathy  ;) ) please let me know!

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« Reply #113 on: Friday December 22, 2006, 02:20:04 AM »
I believe Nizoral is only good for a Fungal infection around the eyes. It may be that you have eczema, in which there really is no cure. Keep the skin moisturized and try to take some of the oils mentioned in previous posts (like Flaxseed, or Evening Primrose), however, there's no quick fix to the problem.

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« Reply #114 on: Friday December 22, 2006, 05:10:15 AM »
Here are some pictures of my rash - defintely not pretty.  Does this look like excema? 

Notice the bulging bumps.  Is that typical of excema?  Does anyone know?




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Re: MY MIRACLE CURE! rash around eyes?
« Reply #115 on: Friday December 22, 2006, 09:56:08 PM »
I planned to see a dermatologist, but after reading on this site, I fear my condition may be difficult to correctly diagnose and that it may be a waste of time and money.

I know there have not been many new posts to this topic lately, but if anyone has any ideas (or sympathy  ;) ) please let me know!

Hiya, mominutah, and wlecome to SkinCell!

I can certainly offer sympathy.  :hugs:

I'm inclined to tell you to see a derm since they are more likely to have a good handle on skin conditions than your PCP, but like any doctor some are better than others.  You may have to visit more than one.  :(

What are you using to cleanse your face?  Are you using any kind of eye drops?  As for allergies, it's still possible even given the cold--pollen isn't the only possible allergen.  Could be mold, dust, pet dander, or something less obvious.

I hope someone comes along with more input for you.  To me, your condition doesn't look like eczema, but I'm an *E newbie myself, so I'm not as knowledgeable as some.

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« Reply #116 on: Saturday December 23, 2006, 03:13:01 AM »
Hey, thanks for your reply.  And the sympathy  :) .  I called a recommended dermatologist today but they are out of the office for the holiday.  I think you are right I need to see one. 

I usually have fine skin with very minimal effort so this is all new to me.  I use whatever bar soap (Dial, Ivory, Zest, etc.) is in the shower to wash my face and have my whole life - I know that probably sounds astounding to most people, but its the truth.  In October I tried using a cleanser for 6 weeks, but there was no change in my condition.

I use Clinque moisturizer daily and have for 15 years.  I went off it for over a month in October to see if that was the culprit (an altered formula or something), but nothing.

I don't use eye drops, because for the most part my eyes themselves are fine. Probably something to try on the watery days.

I live in a very dry climate (definitely no mold), so it could be an allergy to dust or such from the forced heating in our home.  Although we change our filter several times a year, I should consider have my duct work cleaned, huh?  I am definitely allergic to dust and I suffer from seasonal allergies (sneezing, sinus trouble, etc.), but never like this.  I tried taking Zyrtec for a week or two in November, but noticed very little or no change. 

We have a dog (a shih-tzu) but we've had her for several years and I guess I could be reacting to her - just having her around, but I don't touch her - not because I think I'm allergic, but because I just don't like dogs (don't hate me - sorry animal lovers.)  Anyway. I suppose I could have developed an allergy that had not existed before, I don't know.  She is an inside dog (confined to the kitchen only) and if the kids have to choose between her or me- I know I'll lose that one  :laugh: !

Thanks for your input, you gave me some ideas to consider.  I'll keep posting...

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« Reply #117 on: Saturday December 23, 2006, 03:35:46 PM »
Something you might try is switching from soap to a soap substitute.  I use Cetaphil (I sound like an advertisement for this product, because I mention it in nearly all my skin-related posts!), which is fragrance-free and I believe alcohol-free.  Whether you use that or something else, definitely check the ingredients and stay away from products containing fragrances, alcohol, and lanolin which can be a trigger for some conditions.  Same with moisturizers--steer clear of fragrances, etc.  Aveeno has a good one, and I use Purpose by J&J.  Add new products gradually if you decide to switch, and give your skin a few days in between trying new products.

I would never suggest giving up your dog.  :)  A doctor or derm may advise it, tho, so be ready.  If you don't touch the dog that's a help, altho she could still be releasing dander into the air.  :(  We can develop allergies to anything at any time in our lives, so it's certainly a possibility.

Good luck!

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« Reply #118 on: Friday December 29, 2006, 08:09:36 PM »
Hey guys. I'm glad to have found this site as well. Even if I can't figure out what's wrong with me, at least I know I'm not alone.

Some background:
I'm a 25y/o guy who wears contacts daily over the last 10 years (same products and all) and has never had any allergies that I know of. I've had several pets and nothing has come of that. I have a bit of psoraisis on my scalp, but I keep it in check with TGel and head and shoulders, been doing it for at least 7 years now. I do the normal 25y/o stuff like eating crap food (I actually eat a good amount of fruit, apples, oranges and bananas), drinking and smoking. So now lets get to the good stuff.

Well...it all started about 5-6 months ago in July/August. I had moved into a new place in April with a roommate who has a cat. I used to have a cat and dog where I'm from but there were outside mainly and never caused any allergic reactions. Plus my old BF had two cats and I practically lived with him and I never had a reaction. So after being at my new place for about 2-3 months I started to develop one or two bumps below my eyes slightly above the cheek bone. They would appear in the morning when I woke up or after a shower and then go away throughout the day. At first I just thought it might be some mild acne, however, the condition kept getting worse and the bumps began to redden and multiply. Plus, they began not to fade as much through the day. Some of them almost seemed like tiny, tiny whiteheads. They were not itchy or painful or terribly puffy, just made me look like some kind of monster.

I decided to go to the derm, and wouldn't you know it, the day I went there was no sign of it. He really couldn't diagnose anything since there was nothing to see. He said it was probably allergies. It kind of went away for a period and then cam e back and has done this pattern up until now. Currently, it's back. I went home for the holidays and it flared up. I have a few theories on it all though. Here they are, psuedo-science and all:

1) I have some sort of bizarre heat rash. The flare-ups happen in the mornings after I've slept (I get very hot in bed ;D) and taken a shower. Plus it started in the summer when it got hot.

2) My apartment has a mold/and or other problem. The place is a pit. Some days I can't believe I live there. Plus, my roommate is possibly the messiest human I have ever met.

3) I am allergic to something [please don't cop out and say it's the cat...it's not the cat (I wish it were; I hate the thing)]. I'm going to go with food allergy. But also, I had bought some nasty Irish Spring-looking soap that was discounted because it had gotten a little wet. Yeah, gross I know, but hey it was cheap. I have since switched to dove. Other than bar soap, I don't use any products on my face. An alternate theory is that I got some kind of fungus (likes heat and moisture) on my face from that groady soap and it's still there. Kind of like athelete's foot.

4) It has something to do with my eyes watering at night. Sometimes I'll fall asleep with my contacts in and when I wake up the bumps are back (for instance when I went home over the holiday and fell asleep on the bus with the contacts in). Not always, mind you, but it has happened.

5) Aliens.


I've read most of your posts and I am taking up some of the suggestions. I'm trying the evening 45% mineral water eye gel first. Someone on here had mentioned it. After a week of that, if it's not gone, I'm going to stop and start putting some sort of anti-fungal on it for about a week. If that doesn't work, then I'm going to go whole hog and do an exclusion diet. Fun Fun! I'm also going to go see the derm, and you can bet your sweet bippie I'm leaving my contacts in the night before, sleeping under all the covers, taking a long hot shower that morning and maybe even rolling around in the squalor that my rommate calls her bedroom. I'll keep you all updated on my progress. If I find something that works for me, I'll definitely share it. I might even buy a plane and skywrite it, I'll be so happy.

J. :crazy:


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Re: rash around eyes?
« Reply #119 on: Friday December 29, 2006, 08:53:05 PM »
Hey guys. I'm glad to have found this site as well. Even if I can't figure out what's wrong with me, at least I know I'm not alone.

Alone?

Never alone :hugs: Not on SkinCell forum :)