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Title: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Monday July 24, 2006, 12:24:18 PM
Heya, I've just joined *waves hello*

I'm going out of my mind here with frustrarion. Sorry this is gona be a lonnnnng story but Im desperate for advice and help.

About 4 months ago, I developed a sore on my left palm, that I'd been scratching during the night. I thought nothing of it until a few weeks later it had gotten bigger, and when dry, the skin has weird markings on, lines and dots, like scraches. My doctor diagnosed it as a fungal infection, prescribed some crap cream that did nothing really to help.

Soon, a few blisters appeared around my nails. Now, I'm a nail technician, and I know water blisters can be a symptom of an allergy to the acrylic we apply to nails. So I dashed to the doctors and saw the nurse who was convinced it was nothing to do with the acrylic. She prescribed some canesten to apply to the blisters and fungal patch. I started wearing non latex gloves when working and have done for every client ever since.

Soon, the blisters had spead all down my fingers, finger tips, palm on both hands. I also had a typical looking eczema rash on the backs of my hands, all up my arms and under my arms too. Went back to docs, was told it was probably a reaction to something but still not the acrylic, and that it appeared to also be a type of eczema. Was prescribed Eumovate cream for the blisters. At this point, I was certain, after being advised by a friend and searching on the net, that I was suffering with dyshidrotic eczema. I also had skin scrapings taken from the supposed fungal infection.

The canesten and eumovate seemed to work, the fungal infection appeared to die down, and the blisters dried out leaving thick skin. Then all the dead skin started peeling away to reveal new skin.
Both of my palms soon began to start itching though...the strange markings had re-appeared in the new skin on my palms, and last sunday I woke to find the blisters all over my fingers and palms again.

Went to the docs today and I've been prescribed another cream (not sure of the name yet as I've got to pick it up later). I'm now being told yes it's an allergy to the acrylic. I've consulted a friend of mine who is notorious for being the leader of the nail industry who is convinced its nothing to do with acrylic as the rash would appear where acrylic/acrylic monomer has touched the skin. This rash is on my soles and toes and I dont do nails with my feet!! When I'm doing nails, the skin doesnt really itch or burn or react in response to being near the chemicals, I'm doubtful it is my job thats causing it really.
Also, he skin results came back station negative for a fungal infection however a note was attached saying it could be negative cos the scrapings were so small so if my new cream fails to help I have to have more taken.

I've also mentioned it could be a reaction to the contraceptive pill I'm on; my aunt had the same skin problem with the same pill, so again, if the new cream fails, I'll be changed onto a diff pill.

My hands are severely itchy, sore and hot and I'm desperate for something to help. I've taken Piriton which doesnt really help with the itchyness, I'm holding frozen damp flannels on my hands for short term relief. I'm still wearing gloves for work too.
I've just read that Hydrogen Peroxide can help, can anyone give me advice on this?!
Also, should I be using a cream inbetween applying the prescribed creams? I've been using aqueous cream to help the dry skin on my palms, but I've also just read I shouldnt be applying extra moisture!!

Sorry this is so long and I should have probably done a search but I'm so desperate for help, I just wanted to give my story first to see if anyone could shed some light!!

Thanks, Layla xx
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Alohamora on Monday July 24, 2006, 03:56:15 PM
Hi, Chichaboo, Welcome to Skincell!

Does your doctor agree with you now, that it is really dyshidrotic eczema? If not, can they explain why they think it's something else?  To me, it sounds like it certainly could be, but D.E. only occurs on the hands and feet, so the rash on your arms is something else.

In all the reports I've read of people with D.E. there's no single substance that triggers it in everyone. Nickle (what mine is), cobalt, chromium, formaldehyde,  automotive oils and goodness knows what else. Many people say stress makes it worse.
I don't think I've heard of a link to contraceptive pills before, please let us know if that proves out to be the cause of yours.

I'm not a health professional of any type, so I won't tell you not to take steroids or use steroid creams, but I won't use them. It seems like they might help in the short term, but the D.E. always comes back worse when they're stopped.

The explanation of the hydrogen peroxide treatment is here:

Good Luck fighting this!

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Monday July 24, 2006, 10:27:10 PM
Hi Layla :hi:

Sorry I can't help but can say hello  :shakehug:
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Tuesday July 25, 2006, 08:51:31 AM
Lol thanks

Well this morning my hands are worse, I have eczema all over the backs of my hands and up my arms, just looks like normal eczema which I'm used to! More blisters on my palms have come up too.

My palms are v v sore, dry and swollen. My middle finger on my left had, the skin around the nail has swollen over, my 'cuticle'/eponynichium has completely dissolved off thanks to the steroid cream, and the blisters have weeped all around it ugh.

I'm very itchy, sore and lumpybumpy...does anyone find this condition worsens in heat?
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Butterfly Girl on Saturday July 29, 2006, 04:20:37 AM

Well, you've just described what happened to me a year ago!

I was in the process of packing boxes, as we were moving home, and I had a sore patch on my hand, which turned into tiny blisters. After seeing numerous doctors, a dermatologist, and using god knows how many creams, lotions & potions, I diagnosed myself as having pompholyx eczema, which is another name for it. Sadly, my hands & foot have got worse over the year, but I put that down to using so much prescribed steroid cream & anti bacterial cream, and anti fungal cream, that my poor skin doesn't know what's normal cell growth anymore.

I truly believe that mine was triggered by stress, as we'd had a bad few years before moving home, and the buying/selling process took forever. Packing up a home, dealing with solicitors & agents, with two kids under 5 on an eternal summer holiday would be enough to send anyone over the stress edge! My neighbour who moved away 2 months ago came up with the same thing when she moved home, tiny blisters up & down her hands & fingers that itch like a bitch!

My advice to you is the same to her, don't pop the blisters! In my ignorance & frustration I did this, leading to broken skin, inviting infection, and suffering bleeding open sores all over the palms & finger tips of my hands, which I suffered for months. So don't pop em!

The other thing is when it itches, moisturise, don't scratch. Again, scratching leads to broken skin, open sores, yada yada..! And leave a good half hour between applying moisturises & meds. I found having the skin softened a bit by moisturisers helped the meds to work better.

I gave up using meds, and just used moisturiser, and I saw a bit of an improvement, but I think I'll always need something just incase of a nasty outbreak. I found calendula cream/gel helped, and aloe vera gel has a nice cooling effect, but they don't moisture enough. And I was given double base as a moisturiser, but I find it's not thick enough, so I'm usng anything now, hand creams mainly.

Be careful of that fading cuticle too. I had that, and like little dots or ridges on my fingernails. Not knowing what was happening, carried on regardless, and I've lost 5 fingernails. Not happy. And like you, used to have well kept nails. Not anymore. I don't know how you nip losing the nails in the bud, but please try! And if you save your nails, let me know how.

It's been a long reply, but I hope I've been of some help.  :)

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Saturday July 29, 2006, 06:13:35 AM

Thanks for replying!!

Its much worse now, I'm so miserable and tearful cos its so painful, I've been scratching in my sleep as well which doesnt help!!

I have some pics... I'll just post the links incase we're not allowed to post pics...

The blisters on my hands have gone down now, just left with the yukky dry cracked skin with dried blistered patches on my palms and fingers. My arms and backs of hands look like normal eczema to me, it came up on my first attack too. Theres blisters on my feet...the lumps, but the pic doesnt pick up on them v well, jus looks like lumpy skin lol.

I'm going out of my mind...It's coming to the point now that I'm thinking I'm gona have to leave me job, but I desperately don't want to.

Going back on monday to the damn docs and I'm demanding to be referred to a dermatologist.  :'(

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: vicki1981 on Saturday July 29, 2006, 09:16:32 AM
I can sympathise.  I never have any problems on my feeet but currently my hands are covered in water spots which are so tiny they're barely visible until you look closely.  They're surrounded by eczema - I get these from time to time and nothing really seems to help, it just goes away in time.  And yes, I pop them, and yes, it does make them worse. 

I have no will power.

Mine have come up, I believe, due to suddenly stopping the use of steroid creams that I have used as a treatment since I was a baby.  I'm 25 so that's a long time and now my skin has got mad.

I used to have beautiful nails too.  I too have had te pitting which a doctor just told me was a fungal infection and gave me a lotion for it.  I was sceptical as I have heard of nail psoriasis and am convinced it's that.  Anyway, I used what I was prescribed for a few months and it didn't help so I just ignored it.  My nails were thin, no cuticles left, and they wouldn't grow.  The whites wouldn't look white they were a kind of off white, due to the thinness. 

Having left it, I noticed after about 6 months (sorry, it did take that long) that they started to improve.  I had started a new job which I really love, and think not stressing too much does help.  Now it's about 18 months since this first happened and I have just two nails that aren't quite right, but they do grow.  My others are growing back very strong and lovely again.  The ones that aren't right are still thin and pitted and not that nice, but they're growing so they don't look obviously bad.

I haven't worn any polish since this started either.  I think a trigger was some false nails I wore to a friends wedding, it was after that the problem began.  They were just from Boots so not expensive.  I have had proper extensions in the past which never caused problems.

I know for fact that any cleaning products can cause problems so I always wear gloves even just to polish or dust.  A friend who doesn't have eczema or any skin problems found water spots on her hands which were down to cleaning products. 

I hope you feel better soon, I'm thinking of ya.

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Saturday July 29, 2006, 10:02:17 AM

Your nails will grow back eventually, however they may be permantley disfigured if the eczema has damaged your matrix (the funky place where your nail cells are made). And yes, nails will take about 6 months to grow out managers toenails fell off last summer and they've now grown back, a few ridges in but they're there!!

If you can get some, try Solar Oil by Creative Nail Design, it's a godsend for nails and cuticles (I even use it on dry skin and dry lips, it's very nourishing, I'm using it on my palms at the moment to ease the dryness and cracked bits). Look for a Creative Nail Design salon or I'm sure you could find it online somewhere. It's a mix of jojoba oil, almond oil, rice bran oil and vit. e. Just rub into your nails every day.

I'm wearing gloves when I'm doing nails at work and covering my arms in aqueous cream.

I've PM'd my friend who's a leader in the nail industry to ask her what to do with my nails cos I've ran out of ideas! I still don't think it's an allergy to acrylic nails as I've been told a rash will appear where the uncure acrylic touches the skin....and I dont do nails with my feet so it's gota be sumit else!!


Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: totalfolly on Saturday July 29, 2006, 10:10:19 PM
I have some pics... I'll just post the links incase we're not allowed to post pics...

Feel free to post pix of your condition.  You may also put them up in the photo gallery if you wish.

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Tuesday August 01, 2006, 01:01:25 PM
Oh Chicaboo... :hug: :hug: :hug: I have the dreaded pompholyx myself, but not as bad, so I do have an inkling of what you're going through. :hug: And I have it mildly enough so I know that I *don't* know what you're going through. :shake: :hug:

OK, now to see if I can answer some questions and give some advice.

Yes, heat makes it worse. Much worse. In fact, it's kind of interesting... for months we've been getting a lot of people coming in here asking for help with E and P and all sorts of other skin conditions. All te pompholyx people are coming in now. I expect that's due to the summertime being here... in the northern hemisphere, anyway.

The nighttime problem is you've got your hands under the covers. Or under your pillow. It's so hard... it's a lot harder than it sounds to sleep with your hands out from under covers/pillow, but if you can do it, it helps. I've been known to wear winter PJs in the summertime and just sleep on top of the covers. This might be a really good idea for you, since this'll keep your feet out from under the covers as well.

I'd also remove the gloves in between clients, if you don't do that already. Let your hands breathe as much as possible. This stuff isn't contageous, so you don't have to worry about spreading it. I understand that some clients might freak out, though... :( It's sad that people don't really understand skin conditions.

Now for the bad news: if you come into contact with a trigger, it doesn't really matter where the trigger is on your skin. Your gosh-darn fingers/toes will still likely go nuts. I remember once my friend's dog came to greet me after messing in English ivy (I'm very allergic to that) and I wound up with a paw-print of rash on my arm. If it hadn't itched like the dickens it would have been really funny! ...and my fingers broke out.

The first time I got it really bad, my feet broke out as well.

Now for the worse news: it may not be an allergy. My hands go bananas whenever I put lotion on them... any kind of lotion. The thicker, the worse. This includes the lotion I got from the allergist, who guarenteed that I would not be allergic to anything in it. I've also broken out from stress, from not drying my hands properly when I wash them, and one time I got it from a splinter in my toe. A trigger doesn't always mean an allergy. It just means a trigger.

OK, now for the good news. I'm the only sufferer I know who has a lotion as a trigger. Chances are good that that's not the problem. Also, there are plenty of treatments that work for other people, and one of them might work for you. Like with most problems, it's harder to get rid of once it's in there good, but once you find what works for you, dousing yourself with it as soon as the blisters appear again will help loads.

Now for the better news: a list of things that help! The link Alohamora posted is a great one. I've never had to try hydrogen peroxide... well, the first time I got this I skipped it altogether and went straight to bleach. I really don't think it helped, so don't do that to yourself, OK? But do try all those suggestions. One might work and work wonders.

What has really helped me is long soaks in cold apple cider vinegar. Refrigerate it first or plunk a few ice cubes in. Vinegar is fabulous... it makes your skin soft and smooth... sounds odd but it really works! Apple cider vinegar is in the grocery store next to the regular white vinegar. Since I can't use lotions at all, I use that for my dry skin.

Best news of all: it doesn't seem like it now, but this stuff is controlable. It's a matter of finding a treatment that works for you and avoiding your tiggers like the plague. For me, I have to let my skin "breathe..." which means no lotions or rubber gloves. For others it's avoiding a certain food or a certain substance. But you'll find it, I know you will. Best of luck, hon. :hugs:
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Tuesday August 01, 2006, 07:11:13 PM
Hiya, thanks for your essay answer hehe  :-*

I got rushed to docs yes as my left hand had swelled up overnight, imagine a rubber glove blown up! The other hand is also swollen not as bad. Th rash on my arms has become infected along with the blisters and rash on my hands, where the clear fluid was in blisters had been replaced by a creamy white fluid, the doc took a swab test of one of them but said it could be a sterile fluid.

I've been given antibiotics and anti hystamines, and a dermatologist has been called to see me asap this week, usually patients get stuck on the nhs waiting list for weeks or months so Im really lucky I'm being seen so soon, I guess that just shows how concerned my doctor is though, he was completely baffled!! I've been told if it worsens until I'm seen to go to casualty which is scary!!

The skin on my hands is so dry it's extremely painful, I'm been screaming in tears as I cannot bend my fingers throug the swelling and dryness, I'm usuing aqueous cream on my hands, I've refused steroid creams now, I'm gona have just bones if I use it anymore! That's all I'm doing until I'm seen by the derm.

I'll letcha know the outcome!!  :)
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: vicki1981 on Tuesday August 01, 2006, 09:05:00 PM
Aww hugs to you...that sounds awful you poor thing.  I take back what I said earlier I can't sympathise at all, mine is nothing compared to the problems you are having.

I'm pleased to hear that you're being taken seriously by your doctors, I really hope you get it sorted out soon.

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Wednesday August 02, 2006, 12:58:10 AM
Hee! Yes, I am a writer of epic posts... or at least posts as long as epics! :lol: I'm really glad you've got some doctors out there. I remember I couldn't type when I had it the first time. :hugs: Really hope it gets sorted soon.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Thursday August 03, 2006, 02:03:25 PM
ust got back from the dermatologist...well !!
He said it is eczema but it's being triggered by something, probably to do with the products I'm using at work... he asked me to explain how I apply acrylic, I told him how it's done, he asked if it gets onto my hands to which I said hardly ever and plus I've been wearing gloves for the past 3-4 months!
He does think it's weird if it's an acrylic allergy cos it's on both hands (and feet!!) and if I'm not touching the uncured product then it shouldn't be reacting to my skin.

He then asked about the manicure and pedicure products I use, to which I explained soak, exfoliant and massage cream, also explained about the blisters appearing after i did a bunch of pedcures and then on my feet afer having a pedicure, he seems to think this stuff could be a major cause. He also said it could be an allergy to perfume, I cannot use anything perfumed on my face otherwise I get a big reaction, it could be that my hands and weakened to this, and the pedicure and manicure products are very scented.

SO!! I've got to go back next month and have patch tests done, he isn't sure how they're gona check for an allergy to acrylic though!! I suppose I could do an enhancement on myself?! They were really good actually, usually the waiting time for patch tests is 4 months but they said they'd slip me in asap

Also been told not to work til it's cleared up, luckily my managers been really good about it, even though i'm fully booked this week and next week!!

I just hope to god it's not an acrylic allergy, I'm so down about it as I just cannot understand how I have made myself allergic, I never had ANY signs of over exposure either. Maybe I'm allergic to the filling dust but would this really affect my whole body?! Even the soles of my feet!! I wear closed shoes as well to work, it's not like my feet are exposed to anything.

The skin is all breaking and peeling off my hands, there's tender new skin underneath, so I'm under the belief this outbreak is clearing up now, It looks horrible, I'm so embarassed!

Anyway I just thought I'd let you know how I got on!! Got some nice new steroid creams to use, yuk, I'm like a walking medical cabinet for skin disorders at the mo!!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Thursday August 03, 2006, 06:00:29 PM
Glad to hear it's clearing up, love. That stuff is icky... >:P Please, keep us updated!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Butterfly Girl on Saturday August 05, 2006, 07:06:51 AM
Hi Chichaboo,

I'm so glad your docs are helping you, and I wish you all the luck in getting this under control. If you hit the jackpot, let me know!

When I looked at your pics it was like looking at my own hands! Except I've lost 5 nails which have been gone since last October & show absolutely no sign of growing back. The skin on my hands is dry & cracked like you said yours were, and I too can't bend my fingers. I have to get hubby to make a cup of tea, & feed the kids, as I just can't grip. I have to get him to cut up my food like a child's too, cause I can't use a knife & fork properly either.This absolutely infuriates & embaresses me! It's been like this for a while now. And sometimes I can't walk without agony if my foot's cracked & ripped up either. Does this happen to you? All I get from docs & dermo's is that it's with me for life so I have to deal with it, which I'm beginning to think it's true. The shame is that each circle of outbreak of those nasty burning itching little blisters gets worse and spreads further each time, and at the moment seems constistant with being the worst each Friday night. Doing nothing for my social life!  :(

So I'm applying nothing on the skin at the mo, except for Fucibet where the skin is cracked open to preven infection, as it took me months to get the skin to heal up. I looked like I had a thousand papercuts, and blood everywhere! The kids at preschool looked at me like I was from a horror show! And I've been using calendula gel, which does help to ease the itching on a less severe outbreak. For moisturiser I'm using palmers cocoa butter, which is soothing & also thick enough to moisturise. But something is triggering & I don't know what. The hot weather has gone, and the only thing I can think of is stress, and I do have a fair bit of that! My doc is helping me treat it withour pills. I've been tested for allergies, and nothing shows, and there's no history of eczema, asthma or hay fever in my family, so I'm well puzzled!

Sorry, I've gone on with the 'woe is me!' And ideas you have that help you, please share them this way!

I'm really pleased for you that your docs are treating you with the urgency you deserve, and I'll keep everything crossed that they come through for you. Good luck honey! :cf:
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Sunday August 06, 2006, 10:04:23 PM

Well I'm all flaky!! All the yukky skin has almost all peeled away, with nice new skin underneath (v thin though!!). I'm using Protopic cream once in morning and once in afternoon then Dermovate once at night. In between I'm just using vaseline as the derm said it could possibly be an allergy to certain creams so I'm not using aqueous on my hands at the moment.
Going back to work on wednesday, gona wear cotton gloves underneath my vinyl gloves, sealed at the wrists with bands and a long sleeved cardi, that way I can minimise overexposure of any product.

Butterfly chicha I know how you feel about having people doing things for you, I felt absolubtely useless. My mum or boyfriend had to shower me, shave me and wash my hair, dress me, cut my food up for me, even put my creams on my hands. Luckily I can now bend my fingers, my left fingers won't completely bend but I can do stuff on my own now!! I stayed at my boyfriends on monday night and just cried my eyes out he showered me cos I felt so useless and embarassed. Luckily he's a very understanding boyfriend, he suffers frm psoriasis so knows what poorly skin is like!!
Try using vaseline on your hands, it's actually really good! Lasts ages aswell, just dab the excess grease off with a soft towel. xxxxx
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Butterfly Girl on Monday August 07, 2006, 08:44:43 AM
I'm so glad you've got an understanding boyfriend. I've been showing my husband some posts on this site so that he realises I'm not being a drama queen! I think he was getting fed up with the tears and the 'I can't take it anymore!!!' You know the drill! Thanks for the tip on vaseline, I'll give it a try xx

Good luck at work on Wednesday! Be thinking of ya!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: jenanddan79 on Monday August 07, 2006, 02:01:50 PM
Hello! I just joined this forum after doing a search for dyshidrotic eczema, as I have had it for five years. I just wanted to say that I looked at your pictures and it was like looking at my own hands. My heart goes out to you and all who suffer from this disease. Its terrible how people stare, and no one truly understands, unless they have it. Well, I dont know where all of you are located, but here in the US, we are going through a horrible heat wave. I had mine reasonably under control until the 100 degree temps. started. Then, it got worse than I had ever seen it, not even when I was living in Texas. I had to get my skin infection under control with antibiotics first, cause I couldnt move my hands. Doctor had me not work for a week for it to clear. Clobetasol was prescribed like usual, and it did help. But, you definetely have to ween off of that stuff. Start w/2 times a day, morning and night, then go once a day, at whatever time you need it most. AND----my biggest defining factor lately, has been that we dont have good air conditioning in our bedroom--oh my god, how my hands would swell with blisters and itch horribly during the night. We finally got our rent boss to give us a window AC unit for our bedroom, and it has helped dramatically. Heat, to me, really makes it worse, without a doubt. Some other products that I have found that help---Epilyt, its oily, but when the swelling goes down, and your skin is dry, and peeling it feels good. Dont use it when your skin is too raw though--the lactic acid may make it sting. Eucerin intensive healing is wonderful, doesnt sting, good to use anytime. Aquaphor, when your skin is cracked, but really---try to keep your hands and feet dry from humidity and sweating. But use your emollients and moisturizers during the day!! i would write more, but i have to go to work!! If anyone has any ?s, just reply to this post. Good luck.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Monday August 07, 2006, 10:37:18 PM
I'm so glad to hear that you've got some new skin underneath... hopefully this'll be the end of this flare. :hugs:

Try using vaseline on your hands, it's actually really good! Lasts ages aswell, just dab the excess grease off with a soft towel. xxxxx

Just goes to show that everyone's different... if I get vaseline on me that's when I break out! ::) Glad it works for you, though. I've heard some other sufferers mention it, so apparently I'm strange (well, I knew that!).

Welcome to Skincell, Jenanddan!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Tuesday August 08, 2006, 07:04:00 AM
Really? That's super weird, you must have realllly senstive hands!! My derm said it's near impossible to become allergic to vaseline! Aw *special hugs*
My hands are almost back to normal, just patches of lil flakes here and there. Have to say the skin on my palms is very thin, gona have a paraffin wax treatment at work soon, deep moisture treatment! Just hope this is the last least for a while! I need a break lol it's SO nice to feel soft skin again on my hands!!  ;D
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: vera on Tuesday August 08, 2006, 08:59:52 PM
Mmmm... the pics do not like dyshidrosis... except the one of the palm. DE occurs on palms and soles and sides of fingers and toes. Your thang looks more like contact allergy, glad your dr is testing for that.

Best of luck!

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: SF on Tuesday August 08, 2006, 09:10:12 PM
Wow! people with dyshidrotic eczema on the boards have increased since the last time i've been around!

I agree with Vera on this one, the pics (except for the one of the hand) don't look totally like dyshydrotic. I suffer from contact derm due to nickel and a whole bunch of other stuff, and when my skin flares up it tends to look like the other pics.

Good luck with the allergy tests! I hate allergy's....they're a TOTAL pain.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Tuesday August 08, 2006, 09:51:19 PM
The pics were taken a couple of weeks after the blisters had erupted. Next time I have an outbreak I'll take a picture then.

I personally think the rash on my arms and backs of hands was a form of heat rash, it's only occured to me these past few days though.
It came up when it was extremely hot here, was red, hot, clammy and itchy. I was putting cream on it, thinking it was eczema, it this is what it looked like. I've since read on the net you shouldn't put cream on heat rash as it traps the sweat into the skin and makes the condition worse.
Even now when I'm having baths or showers, the redness comes back, so i'll make a point to tell my derm this at my next appointment.

I still think the blisters on my hands and feet is dyshidrosis, being triggered by something. Only time will tell  ;)
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 02:59:46 PM
I'm really upset  :'( I've just noticed what looks like about 3 small new blisters under the skin of my left palm. I can feel a lump and it's orangy-red with darker dots - the fluid.

I'm gutted. My skin has only just recovered.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Alohamora on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 03:48:05 PM

One thing that really helped me with small outbreaks is flax seed oil. I take 2 or 3 grams of flaxseed oil everyday. Several times when I forgot, I started to get some blisters and then within a couple of hours of taking the flaxseed oil the blisters would just disappear again. 

All I have left is a rough patch of skin on my middle finger, everything else has healed, but this little patch is very stubborn.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 04:39:52 PM
Ah I've been meaning to get some, I'll try find some asap.

One thing that did cross my mind it is could be a heat problem. I've done 2 sets of nails wearing cotton gloves with plastic ones over the top throught the treatment, no products came into contact with my skin what so ever.

2 pairs of gloves = hot hands. Maybe this could be the possible cause of these blisters?

I'm still sure the rashes on my arms and legs were heat rash, it has been severely hot here, only cooling down for the past 2 weeks. Maybe my hands and feet are connected to the heat too. The only other thing I could think it might be is the dust from filing nails, even though I've had my extractor fan on today.

I just feel like I'm back to square one, as soon as one outbreak dies, a few days later it starts all over again.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 05:08:45 PM

These gloves may help. They have nitrile palms and a woven back and therefore breathable. PM your address and i can send you a pair to try if you want. Guys at work like these as they offer some degree of chemical protection whilst not making your hand hot and sweaty
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 05:11:15 PM
Oooh that would be fab! They're not really big are they?! Lol.

Thankyou, I'll PM you my address *hugs*
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 05:12:25 PM
All sizes available IIRC ;) and a better piccy
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 05:17:38 PM
Oooh funky!! I've PM'd you! Thankyou, you're a star *!!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Wednesday August 09, 2006, 07:21:02 PM
:hugs: Heat does make it worse. That much is universal. Best of luck with the new gloves! :nod: :cf:
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 07:25:08 AM
Ok, my skins going weiiiiiiiiiiiiiiird....
After I found those blosters on my palms last wednesday, they've developed all over both palms...and only my palms..! You cannot feel them either, you can just see all the fluid dots right under my skin. I've not used ANY cream on them either. Saturday, my palms started peeling and then my fingers sarted. This outbreak hasn't been anywhere near as itchy as the last 2 either. I'm still aching to scratch though!!
Monday, my fingers swelled up, just my fingers. This morning, my hands have swelled up as well. The rashes on my arms and legs are bright red, flaky, scaly etc. I cannot get to a doctors til next monday either so I duno what to do  :( I've not been at work since saturday either yet all this swelling and peeling has happened on my 3 days off...weiiiird. Back to work today, just hope I can actually work through the swolleness!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 12:00:43 PM
Hows the work going? Your hands sound really bad right now :o. Can you not insist on seeing a duty doctor? Got this with my surgery.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 12:14:40 PM
I've not done any acrylics yet, thats at 5pm so I'll letcha know how the funky gloves go!!

I cant see a doc cos I'm not going home until sunday evening! I stay with my nan during the week except mon and tues cos it's easier to get to and from work from her house. As far as I am aware i'm not allowed to hgo to another docs, any time I have tried this they have refused to see me as they don't have my medical records!!

I've got little cuts all over my palms and fingers, it's hurts so much.

I took pics this morning, you can't see the blisters as they're so far under the skin, this is my 'peeling' stage..

Swollen fingers..

My left palm
Close up

Down one side of one finger

Rash on arms

Ouuuchccchchcch yukyukyuk !!

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 01:25:43 PM
That looks sore :-[. Has your derm seen it like that?
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 01:31:05 PM
When I saw my derm, the antibiotics I was on had started to work causing my rash on my arms to dry up, but he saw my hands when they were flaking and swollen.

I've stopped taking my contraceptive pill to see if that is the cause - my aunt suffered similar problems on the same brand of pill, so I'm hoping and praying it's that. My only other guess in inhaling acrylic dust. Or maybe I'm just a lost cause and destined to be like this forever for no reason  :(
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: AndyBruceWillis on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 01:37:42 PM
I am no expert but have expirience of contact dermatis. That looks very much like it. Exposure to a an irritant causes sensitisation. Then any exposure to the same irritant can cause an adverse reaction. What happens if you have a week off work?
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday August 16, 2006, 02:07:36 PM
Well I work 3 days off 4 days on, so sun, mon and tuesa i have off and the problem just continues, like my fingers have been swelling more and more sun, mon and tues just gone. It's like a cycle, blisters come up on hands, rash comes up on hands and legs and chest, blisters start to dry and harden, skin starts cracking the peeling revealing nice new skin underneath. A couple of days after looking like I'm normal again, the blisters come back. This keeps going whether I'm working or not.

When I did have a week off work a couple of weeks ago, I was put on antibiotics which immediately cleared the rash up, the swelling and state of my hands didnt subside though, then my hands started the peeling stage a couple of days later before I went back to work and the morning I got up for work more blisters and rash was back!!
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Saturday September 09, 2006, 11:27:30 AM

Well I've had my allergy tests done!!

I'm not allergic to my acrylic I use at work...I am however, allergic to nickel, steroid cream (!!) and a preservant found in shampoos, hand and face creams and household stuff etc etc. This is such a relief knowing this!!

I do still think it may be connected with the contraceptive pill, I came off it just over 3 weeks ago and my skin cleared up, I had 2 weeks of nice, clear skin, just a few red marks where the lumps had been and that was it. I went onto another brand of pill last tuesday, woke up on sunday and found loooadsa blisters on my hands and fingers again, stopped taking it straight away and my skin seems to be clearing up again. So gona stay off it from now on!!

One question regarding it in all jewellry? I have several items that my boyfriend has given me over the years and I'd be really sad if I couldn't wear them again  :-\ Anything I could put on them to protect my skin?
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: totalfolly on Saturday September 09, 2006, 03:28:16 PM
It's such a relief to know what's causing your problems, isn't it?  :up:

If your jewelry has nickel (I don't think it's in all jewelry, but probably is in the less expensive stuff) you might try putting a coat of clear nail polish on it.  I've never tried that, but it was suggested to me once.  I imagine that you would have to repeat it from time to time.

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Alohamora on Monday September 11, 2006, 01:56:51 AM
For me, it's not the Nickel in jewelry, it's the nickel in food that causes problems. 
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Wednesday September 13, 2006, 07:48:36 AM
Yea, I lookd up food that contains nickel, I'm gona try avoid them. I've just ordered a nickel testing kit, I use so many metal tools at work so need to test on them all.

The preservant thing I'm allergic to is Bronopol, which is in bloody everything!! Well, an exaggeration but it's in a lot of stuff I use, will be checking labels thoroughly from now on. Oh and found anmother sheet I was given stating I'm also allergic to Methylchloroisothiazolinone (try saying that when you're drunk!!)

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Alohamora on Wednesday September 13, 2006, 11:36:17 AM
Yea, I lookd up food that contains nickel, I'm gona try avoid them.

The lists I've found are incomplete and inaccurate. It's only by trial and error that I'm finding what I can/can't eat.

I can eat dairy, stone-ground grains, most fruit except pinnaple, meats, veggies except the green leafy ones.
Just about anything that goes through mechanical processing equipment is a problem, I guess it picks up nickel from the steel processing equipment. Canned foods are out for the same reason.  No chocolate and no tree nuts, peanuts are OK.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Chichaboo on Thursday September 14, 2006, 06:03:12 PM
That must suck!! ^^

Last night I noticed my makeup remover wipres contain Bronopol, and the shampoo I use has Methylchloroisothiazolinone in it, as well as a hand massgae cream at work. I've got itchy lil lumps on my right big toe, I guess I used a shampoo with methylchloroisothiazolinone in, whilst in the shower and it dripped down when rinsing off and got onto my feet. I certainly haven't put nickel on my toe! Lol.

I've asked my friend who works with the academy/company of nails I train and work with to check the entire list and contents of the acrylic products I use to make sure there is deff no bronopol or methylchloroisothiazolinone in.

One scary thing I did read is that there's a chemical ingredient in steroid creams which is also found in the curing (hardening) process of adhesives and resins, I do use these at work obviously, which has got me a bit worried. Maybe I'm looking into it too much. I've deff touched something though cos I've got a few blisters, although no rashes on legs and arms and the blisters don't really itch at all.

Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: treesandflowers on Monday February 05, 2007, 07:17:28 AM
Wow, your eczema is really bad!  I thought mine was severe.

I have had dyshidrotic eczema on my hands and wrists for about 5 years and the main thing to remember is to use what works, and STAY ON TOP OF IT.  Don't wait until it gets bad to treat it.  Keep it supressed.  It seems so simple, but it took me about 4 years to learn that lesson!

Protopic for me is god.  Steroid creams, except for the very strongest ones, do little to nothing when the eczema is severe like ours (it's like the skin gets used to it) so being allergic to it probably isn't a big loss.

I use 0.1% protopic twice daily on the areas that flare up, whether they are flared up at the moment or not.  Sometimes I can bring it down to once a day. but NEVER less than that.  It is tricky because I used to think that when the ointment cleared it up, I could stop using it...but chronic eczema doesn't work like that.  It always comes back if I neglect it, and it can take weeks to get back on track.  When I stay on top of it, you would never even know I had bad skin.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: sdskin on Sunday February 18, 2007, 04:07:45 PM
You might want to research Pinta, a bacterial infection, and see if the symptoms fit. I had a myterious rash on my hands and feet, itchy too and the doctors had no clue. It turned out to be this disease from Mexico that is not known to be in the USA. But, it is. If it is Pinta, it is curable by antibiotics.
Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: treesandflowers on Wednesday February 28, 2007, 05:47:30 PM
I just thought I'd add any update:

After many years of usingp protopic nad it working great, my eczema was getting so bad that for some reason nothing was keeping it down.  It was almost like the greasiness of the meds was making things worse instead of better it they used to.  So I figured if the meds weren't helping, why use them?  I stopped and the bubbles are now way smaller, dryer, and less itchy.  I keep my hands moisturized still (aveeno baby lotion moisturizes well, but finishes dry), but other than that haven't been using anything.  I feel great!  I don't know why.  The eczema is so mild, I don't even feel I have to treat it. 

It still wakes me up at night sometimes but after about 5 minutes of scratching I'm usually ok for the rest of the night, and it doesn't bother me during the day at all.

Anyway, lesson learned.  Taking breaks from meds isn't such a bad idea as I thought.  Just because it didn't improve one time, doesn't mean things won't be improved the next time you try.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Caterpillar on Tuesday August 07, 2007, 08:21:34 PM
This has been the most frustrating thing, which I developed this on the palms of my hands and fingers since Dec. 2006. I noticed it right before Christmas right in the middle palms and it eventually spread out. I thought it was from using Clorox wipes during the flu season, or the antibiotics (Zpack) I was on which also gave me the thrush/yeast infection in my throat. I still do not know the cause. I have been dealing w/ this blistering, itching, cracking and tried to research different things online that would help. Here are some things that work for me.

(Lay It on Thick), by Bath and Body works...its a Shea butter, feels great and don't burn or irritate areas...
(Liquid Ivory dish soap) to cleanse, don't burn or irritate
(A & D mineral ointment), don't burn or irritate as well
(Benedryl)- at night to stop the itch. Makes me drowsy though.
(Immunity & Detox drops)- ordered online through a site of WebMD/herbal remedies. 
(antibiotic ointment )on open cracked skin to prevent infection.
**I have found that the topical steroid creams do not help.

Heat and humidity flares me up. Once I feel the onset on itching, I usually go ahead and take a Bindery.
Ice works wonders and feels great, cools the hands off and keeps them from swelling and blistering.
Our nurse here at work was right. UV rays are good, but unfortunately the flare ups are heat sensitive.
I indoor tan one to two times a month, using a cool bed and place my hands outside around on top of the tanning bed. It stays cool there. I do fine doing that. I just cant us any lotions when tanning.
It is sad that I cannot even squeeze a lemon in my tea. I get my boyfried to handle stuff like that. My last worse episode was on a Saturday, after washing cars in a Armorall carwash w/ wax. Dumbo me forgot to wear gloves. I suffered for that and the phases started again from itching, severe blistering and swelling, to drying and cracking. I made it through though. Trying my best to just stay on top of it now. I am fixing to leave work, and it is 100 degrees here. I plan to crank the car and run the air a while, cause the steering wheel is too hot to handle. If I find anything else that helps me I will pass it along. Thanks and good luck.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: BlistersOnMyFingers on Sunday August 19, 2007, 02:12:18 AM
Just want to say, Hi, and thanks for sharing all your stories.

I've been battling eczema for about 8 years now.  About 3 or 4 years ago I had a severe outbreak that nearly landed me in the hospital.  My dermatologist said it was the worst he had seen, and this was 3 months after I got a kenalog injection.  One more injection and my skin has been in good shape ever since.  Still itch like crazy at times but manageable enough that I hadn't had to see my dermatologist (at Columbia Presbyterian in NYC) since then.

Then, just this past Monday morning I see tiny bumps I'd never seen before.  Not knowing what was happening, I went to see doctor's office at work for some hydrocortisone.  The PA looks and thinks they might be scabies!  I get squeezed in to see a local dermatologist who looks at my hand for all of 30 seconds and diagnoses it has Dyshidrotic Eczema and prescribes diflorasone cream.  I left feeling very very relieved and believing everything would be alright.

Two days later, my fingers are starting to look deformed, with the bumps getting larger and small water blisters starting to form.  My wife and I left message for the local dermatologist that I saw that week and my NYC dermatologist late Wednesday afternoon, after all the doctors had already gone home.

Thursday morning, 2 am, the webs between my fingers are burning so bad they wake me up, the blisters have grown and I can barely move my fingers at all.   I never made it to work that day.  I went straight in to see my NYC dermatologist even though I had no appointment.  Fortunately they squeezed me in with no arguments.  The doc there agreed with DE diagnosis, calling it severe.  He immediately gave me a 60 mg oral dose of prednisone and a prescription that should last me about 2 weeks plus 1 refill.

Up until today, there had been almost zero improvement.  Today, though, the pain has gone down considerably, and two of my biggest blisters popped.  I've been dabbing them with Neosporin to ward off infection.  I've also been taking Benadryl a few times a day to control the itching in my hands as well as my back and shoulders.  For the first time in 3 days I don't feel like a complete invalid.  (My wife has been an absolutel godsend throughout this, dealing with work, me and the kids.)

Out of curiosity, I tried the hydrogen-peroxide on two of my blisters using a Q-tip.  But I really don't know if that helped or not.

To sum up:  Diflorisone cream completely useless.  Oral prednisone plus Benadryl working so far.

Thanks for reading this very long post, just wanted to share my experience. 
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: itchychick on Sunday August 19, 2007, 04:36:30 PM
That sounds so painful, bomf!

I don't know if you've found it from the boards, but several of our members here have had some success in controlling the itch of DE with Apple Cider Vinegar.

As far as this outbreak goes, has there been any changes in your daily activities... changes in diet, things you are handling, increases in stress?  Unfortunately, the only trigger that I have been able to isolate in myself is stress, and I must admit I'm not the best at managing it, but perhaps you could think about environmental factors which may have triggered this outbreak?

It's interesting to me that you've been struggling with eczema for about 8 years... That means that you were about 28 when it first surfaced?  Did you have e as a child?  I'm asking because I was also about 28 when my e re-surfaced (I had a milder, more typical e as a child, but had been relatively free of it for years).  Interestingly, my sister (who is a dermatologist), has noticed that this pattern of adult onset eczema seems hit people in their late 20's and is stubbornly resistant to the traditional topical treatments.  It makes me wonder what might be the common link.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: BlistersOnMyFingers on Sunday August 19, 2007, 08:21:59 PM
Hey itchy,

Wifey just picked up some apple cider vinegar for me to try.  I'll let you know how that goes.  For now, the prednisone/neosporin/benadryl combo is working well.

Other than a very bad acne problem at 13, I never had any issues with e at all growing up.   I don't think I've been under any particularly bad stress lately.  The only triggers I know about are certain itchy fabrics and bugs.   Stress and anxiety also play a part but in reverse:  When really stressed or anxious, I find myself scratching almost out of habit, not necessarily because of an itch.

Among the topicals that I've tried, clobetasol has worked the best for me in keeping my atopic e in check.  I use it as little as possible to avoid thinning.  I have to admit, I'm absolutely horrible about keeping my skin moisturized.  I hate putting on lotion, ointments, baby oil or anything like that.  Though, I do find baby oil helpful just before getting out of the shower.  Time to start that up again.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Sunday August 19, 2007, 11:00:07 PM
I'm also allergic to Methylchloroisothiazolinone (try saying that when you're drunk!!)

Please forgive me Chichaboo, but I'm presently totally toasted (:slosh:) and I read that out loud to my hubby. His response was "no way he really said that part about being drunk!"

In my own defense, I don't think I could say that sober.

Good luck, Bomf. The apple cider vinegar has worked wonders for me, along with discovering and avoiding my trigger: lotions. As in, my guest room has a fine and comprehensive collection of fine hypo-allergenic lotions that I can't use. :) My problem started when I started using hand lotion on a fairly regular basis, when I moved from Georgia to Virginia (you never know how wonderful humidity is before it's gone). I also had acne as a teen, small world, huh?

I really hope you find something that works for you. For the record, I don't moisterize, but when I really really have to, oils (like the baby oil you mentioned) are OK. :)
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: BlistersOnMyFingers on Tuesday August 21, 2007, 01:27:51 AM
I just added this to the gallery.  My left hand got the worst of it.  This is what it looked like Thursday night, the day I started on Prednisone.  As of now, all blisters have either popped or mostly dried up.


In case this might help, my derm game me 60mg of Predisone tablets all in one shot in his office and a prescription for:

- 20mg Prednisone 3x a day for 5 days
- 20mg Prednisone 2x a day for 5 days
- 20mg Prednisone 1x a day for 5 days

Plus he included 1 refill just in case it flairs up again over Labor Day weekend.
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: Bamawing on Wednesday August 22, 2007, 06:41:57 PM
Oh Bomf!!! Just looking at the picture gave me sympathy itches. I've never had monsterblisters like that, but minus those is what my hands looked like for several months solid my first married winter. (It just killed me - I had just got my wedding band, and I couldn't wear it.)

Keep your hands as cool as possible, and man oh man I hope your Prednisone helps!!!!! :cf:
Title: Re: Please help me!! Dyshidrotic eczema!
Post by: bluedreamweaver11 on Monday May 19, 2014, 09:34:41 AM
Help me too! mine started on August 2013 we had a vacation in Tagaytay which is a cold place we live in Manila which is a hot place. It started in itching hen the blisters came in.

In October we went to see a dermatologist. She gave me 2 products the one is soap (Oilawin) and the other is Ointment (C-Ointment) it was really expensive so is the check up the derma told us to come back if it doesn't disappear for one week. We didn't come back because of the expensive-ness though i think it worked because the blisters in my palm disappeared bt it took a long time to. Also the ointment was not enough.

After that i've been using lotions et. moisturizers, whitening, sun blocks it's not disappearing though they are walking like, they came from my pinky and they are walking to way down to my palms. I've tried on changing my everyday regimens like my shampoos, soaps. It didn't change also.

One day we were eating jackfruit and has to get the thing they eat inside and i helped. I applied Oil on my hands because jackfruit is sticky as hell. The type of oil i used is the normal oil used for cooking. After a few minutes it itched like hell really! that i want to use sandpaper for the itchiness it was really really itchy! and the blistering and redness worsen >.< I REAALLY HATE IT and it makes me FEEL FRUSTRATED AND OTHER >.<

i continued on using other moisturizers and it spread in the other fingers and i'm also having it now on my feet

That's when i started using Nivea Creme as moisturizer the itchiness reduced though i found out the 'Methylisothiazolinone' irritates the skin and is the first cause of Dermatitis. So i discontinued of using and now i'm using Dove beauty bar and also Lactacyd. I still don't know the effects though.

Yesterday night i found this ointment that has cooling effect it has this two oil. Palm Oil and Olive oil i used it 3 -4 times because of the cooling effect and when i woke up now the blisters worsen. Help me too please ;-;

I always play the computer so that i have something to use of my fingers so that i can't rub and pop the blisters.