Author Topic: Ecxema help  (Read 17479 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline ozcritter

  • Registered member
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Ecxema help
« on: Friday April 30, 2004, 12:58:37 PM »
Hi guys
I have a bad recurrent skin problem my GP has diagnosed as eczema but
nothing fixes it. Symptoms:-
Very itchy patches on the tops of my knees extending in part up to my
outer thighs, also on outer of elbows & outer of ankles.
It started a few years ago (I'm now 59).
It was originally helped with cortisone creams.
It has now got so bad I feel like screaming or topping myself most days.
It starts off with little blister type things which get VERY itchy, I try
to ignore it & take antihistamines & its OK for a day or so, but I take to
it with abandon & end up with blood everywhere. I do try not to do it but
sometimes I an overwhelmed by the urge. After scratching it I get a
massive surge of serous ooze, which seems to re-occur once scratched, no
other bleeding points (ie other cuts & scrapes)results in this serous
ooze.
I have tried everything that I know of including bandages at night with
some type of soothing ointmwent ie Zinc, even bandaged it with cortisone
creams, but it is getting much worse over the last 6 months.
I'm slowly getting VERY depressed about this as it is diificult to manage
when working.
Any help anyone can give will be greatly appreciated. I can only hope!
Pat
 
     
 

Offline Val

  • SkinCell Friend
  • Golden GasBag
  • *
  • Posts: 8910
  • Gender: Female
  • Mmmmm ! The Weird One I am !
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #1 on: Friday April 30, 2004, 03:50:50 PM »
:hi: Pat,

Welcome to our SkinCell cyber family. :D

Sorry to hear you're having this problem with your skin. :hug:

Just about all of us understand the horrid itch/scratch cycle and yes it is really hard to break that. :hug:

May I ask, have you seen a dermatologist about this condition yet?  I ask because to be honest GP's don't really know much more than the basics on skin conditions, whereas derms are the specialists in the subject. As you used GP, I'm assuming you are in the UK, if so then you should ask your GP for a referral to a derm as soon as possible so you can get the proper treatment for your skin.

In the mean time, are you using a moisturiser at all? A non-perfumed, lanolin free one is the best type and you need to use it often throughout the day, especially just before bed. This will often ease the itching a lot, especially if you keep it in the fridge as that will really cool the skin down. Ask your doctor for a prescription for one, or alternatively ask your local chemist/pharmacist to suggest one for you.

I by the way have a form of psoriasis on my hands and feet, and one of the other ways I try to calm the itch down is to wrap a freezer block in a lightweight towel and hold that to the itching area. Please don't use an uncovered block though, as you will end up with a freezer burn. ;)

Also when cleaning the area, don't use any soap products at all just plain warm water, as soap is very drying and often an irritant. I say warm water, as hot water is also very drying and can damage the skin as well, much better to use warm water when taking baths or showers. It's also worthwhile putting on moisturiser on damp skin straight after a shower or bath, as this allows it to sink in much deeper and do it's work better.

Hopefully, some of our *E sufferers will be in shortly and be able to offer more information and suggestions.

Please do keep coming back in here not only to update us but to also join in with us all around our cyber home. We do love to meet and have new members join in with us on the fun side, and we do have a lot of fun here, well they do say laughter is a medicine. ;)

Val :hugs:



 

Gobe

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #2 on: Friday April 30, 2004, 09:17:47 PM »
 :hi:

Welcome to Skincell Pat

I am a chronic eczema sufferer too.  I can empathise with you.  The itch alone is bad enough but the after scratch burn is enought to send a person insane.  That plus the mess of bleeding skin and ooze.

Some great advice from Val there.  A strict skin care regime is essential for us.

Don't forget to change your laundry powder to a fragrance free non biological one and do not use fabric conditioner or softner.  

Cotton clothing is preferable to man made fibres.

The blisters do suggest some type of contact irritant.  People with eczema often have very sensitive skin that reacts badly to chemicals, detergents,fragrance,dust mite droppings and a host of other things.  Try to think about your day and what you skin is coming into contact with.  

I really do think it is time for you to see a derm.  I periodically have to go into hospital for treatment and it is amazing what a differnece to my skin this makes.  There are also oral drugs available for E that your derm could consider but this is usually reserved for the worst cases.  I am considering these at the moment.

Your skin may also not be responding to the topical steroids because it is infected.  If so you need to see your doctor for some antibiotics.  

Hang in there!  

I have severe  *E (that means I am affected head to foot only soles of feet do not break out) and I have not given up hope!  I do sometimes go into periods of remission and periods of only mild to moderate  *E.  It is probably a lot easier for me to live with coz I have had it my whole life and I cannot not remember being itchy!

Do not despair!  At least you have found us and believe me we do appreciate what you are going through.

 :hugs:







 

« Last Edit: Friday April 30, 2004, 09:18:24 PM by Gobe »

Tiny_Mo

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #3 on: Sunday May 02, 2004, 11:27:56 AM »
 :hi: Pat,

Welcome to skinCell :)

Offline tiffany

  • Registered member
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #4 on: Monday May 03, 2004, 03:23:05 AM »
HI,
WHEN I BECAME PREGNANT WITH MY CHILD I HAD REALLY BAD ECZEMA. BEFORE, I HAD ONLY A COUPLE TINY PATCHES ON MY FACE, IT WAS HARDLY NOTICEABLE. BUT DURING MY PREGNANCY I BECAME HORRIBLY ITCHY AND I HAD NEVER SEEN IT SO BAD. IT CALMED DOWN AFTER THE DOCTOR GAVE ME STEROIDS FOR IT. IT WENT AWAY UNTIL A COUPLE MONTHS AFTER I DELIVERED MY SON. NOW IT SEEMS AS IF IT IS SPREADING. ONE DAY THERE WILL BE A SMALL PATCH ON MY NECK AND NOW THERE ARE A COUPLE. I USE THE MEDICINE THE DOCTOR PRESCRIBED BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THE ECZEMA IS SPREADING. CAN ANYONE HELP?

Offline SF

  • SkinCell Grand
  • Femme Fatale
  • *****
  • Posts: 1688
  • Gender: Female
  • Former 008
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #5 on: Monday May 03, 2004, 09:04:04 AM »
:hi: pat!! welcome to the forum!

gobe and Val have given you some good advice there.
"The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while nature cures the disease". Voltaire

Offline MarieC

  • SkinCell Grand
  • Fa Shizzle
  • *****
  • Posts: 2714
  • Gender: Female
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #6 on: Thursday May 06, 2004, 12:43:50 AM »
Hi ,

I am a new member and an eczema sufferer as well.I had it when i was a child, and it went away until i turned 18. From then on it got worse and worse. Throughout the past few years...I am 25 now, ive learned that healing eczema is more than focusing on the external things...that is only part of it. Learning to deal with stress, and learning to eat right has helped me more than all the medications that ive tried (corticosteroids, protopic, elidel) and have failed me. Have you tried avoiding wheat and dairy? that first step alone has helped me endlessly. Also detoxification is very important, i juice fresh fruits and veggies (especially greens) which cleans out the toxins and possible food allergies.. *E

and of course thinking POSITIVELY helps TONS!
(believe me i know its hard when you have eczema) ;D

Offline Hvns

  • SkinCell Grand
  • Lemon-Aid
  • *****
  • Posts: 2225
  • Gender: Female
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #7 on: Thursday May 06, 2004, 08:09:52 AM »
 :hi: Hello Ozcritter & Bebxmarie and welcome to skincell!

hvns
When Life gives you Lemons--Make Lemonaide!

Offline tsparks

  • Registered member
  • *
  • Posts: 1
  • Gender: Female
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #8 on: Monday May 10, 2004, 02:33:42 AM »
Hi there,
It sounds like you have something that really needs to get dealt with soon!
If the creams are not working then I would turn to different remedies. First you really need this diagnost, if it is eczema then it must be a fairly severe case. I would also look at alternatives like diet control. My son hase eczema and I am starting to find out more about foods that may triger the outbreaks, I just read that dairy, eggs, soy, wheat, peanut, and fish may cause outbreaks; this of course may not be the case for you but you might begin to pay attention to what you have eaten during the days when it really seems to break out, maybe you will find some coorelations. I can say that I have had some success with diet, I recently got adult acne and after nearly two frustrating months of taking a pill and washing my face with special stuff, my skin seemed to get worse. So I went off the pill and the face wash, did a little research and have successfully cut much of the foods that seem to cause acne out of my daily diet and my skin has begin to clear up.
Good Luck, I hope some of this helps.
Don't pick at it!!!
That will only make it worse.

Gobe

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #9 on: Monday May 10, 2004, 07:26:16 PM »
 :hi:

Welcome to Skincell Tsparks!

 :)


ChadLovesYHWH

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #10 on: Thursday June 10, 2004, 01:51:29 AM »
Hi, my name is Chad. How are you'all doing? I hope someone would like to know what type of Condition I have and want to help me find a Cure for my Condtion.

My condition: I'm sufferering with Eczema, Augmentin, and Prednisone. I believe Augmentin and Prednisone are Steroids better known as, Immune-Weakening Drugs. The Eczema I have comes with a possible 2nd Infection which lets Clear Ooze come out of my skin. That same Ooze eventually becomes Solid when it is a Goldenish color (sometimes the Ooze will be Yellowish and it is Light Orange if it's mixed with my blood). I have Scars that are Dark Brown from my Head, Shoulders/Arms, Trunk, Legs to my Ankles (Exactly where the spots of my rash/infection have been).

The Areas of my Skin are Rough where the Scars are Tender (Extremely Sensitive). Please help me find a Cure for my Condition.

Thank you for your Time & Attention. I would appreciate all the help you'all may have available to give.

Offline Jdance

  • Registered member
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Gender: Female
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #11 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 04:48:42 AM »
Hey Everyone,
My name is Jessica and i'm new to this forum.  I was actually on the web trying to find the name of a condition that one of my friends has.  She has discolouration on her body/face (lack of pigment) but i didn't want to ask, and was trying to explain it to someone else.  I stumbled on this site and was brought to tears and overwhelmed with the discussions and support in all of the posts.  I had no idea there were sites like this out there.  I'm so glad i've found it.  
I too am locked down by the itch stratch cycle.  I try and try different ways to aviod, especially b/c i scratch in my sleep.  Stress is a huge factor for me.  I used to go to the derm when i was little but i just got fed up of ppl telling me i'd grow out of it!!! GRRRR  
Anyway, I remember one time I had a scar so bad it was like my whole elbow joint was darkend I thought it would never go away.  But it did, i'm still a little wrinkly there but the discolouration has gone away.  It took a few years for it to go and a lot of will power not to scratch.  Don't give up.

My eczema flares up if i'm stressed most of the time, and now it's not in my joints really only on my face.  Steroid creams/ointments i've been using all my life but i don't even know if they work anymore.(it's probably psychological more than anything) I've had the ooze and the goldenish when it gets really bad.  I also flake more than anything, i have clinically dry skin so it's even worse.  So i am just as interested in the info about how to keep this under control too!!!!

Please help, your new member Jessica
My boyfriend is a great help we've been together for years and he reminds me all the time without getting impatient not to scratch.  I think it's important to have the support around, to keep from getting too upset, and to keep you on your toes ;)

Offline totalfolly

  • Retired Moderator
  • Crazy Cat Hero
  • *
  • Posts: 13855
  • Gender: Female
  • I yam what I yam
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #12 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 01:23:27 PM »
Hiya, Jessica, and welcome to SkinCell!

I'm sure some of our eczema sufferers will be along soon with info for you.

totalfolly
"If you hear a voice within you say 'You cannot paint'
then by all means paint, and that voice will be silenced."
 -- Vincent vanGogh

Offline GuzziHeroV50

  • SkinCell Hero
  • Gas Guzzler
  • *
  • Posts: 9883
  • Gender: Male
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #13 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 01:49:48 PM »
Hiya Jessica!

The first thing to say is that it is possible that you have grown an immunity to the steroid creams.  This is a situation that my cousin is in - she has eczema on her face and Betnovate cream has lost its effectiveness.

Steroid cream can also cause permanent skin damage.  Is it possible to tell us which creams you use, as some are stronger than others.

Personally, Ive found that Cyclax Vitamin E Face & Body Cream has worked well for me with my seborrhoeic dermatitis.  Things that work for one person, may not work for another, but if you wanted to give it a try I can give you a website to obtain it (dang, Im sounding like a salesperson now!).

It sounds vaguely possible that you MIGHT have *SD like me.  Do you have a seriously flaking scalp as well as face?  Ive had eczema patches inside my elbows, and a patch on my chest before but as Ive slowly beaten it into submission these other patches have gone.

Gobe

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #14 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 02:40:07 PM »
 :hi:

Welcome to Skincell Jessica

I am also a life time sufferer of severe and chronic eczema.  I get it all over my whole body - everywhere in fact and it comes and goes - I am sure you know what I mean!

Steroids do lose some of their effectiveness and I gradually climbed up the topical steroid ladder and now currently use Nerisone which is a little bit more potent that betnovate.  Topical steroids tend to get a lot of bad publicity but quite honestly without them I do not know how I could control my flare ups.  Protopic did not work for me sadly.  So long as you use them sensibly and take breaks from them then I do not see a problem.  For people with severe and chronic eczema there really is not an alternative.  I am very thankfull for steroids!

Your boyfriend is a star!

 :hugs:





« Last Edit: Sunday June 13, 2004, 02:40:53 PM by Gobe »

Offline Jdance

  • Registered member
  • *
  • Posts: 6
  • Gender: Female
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #15 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 02:41:44 PM »
Hey everyone ...and thanks GuzziheroV50,
The last prescrip I had was hydrocortisone, but that was in 2002.  Like i said i kinda got fed up.  I just get really upset when it breaks out and feel great on the good days.  I suppose i should go back to the derm and figure out where i'm really at.  

I don't have a flaking scalp.  The eczema is mostly on my face now.  Very rarely if i get really stressed or too hot(sweaty) i'll get itchy in my elbows but it won't break out unless i scratch. *so that's good*  

I read about some ppl using only dove soap.  It sounds like they've had good results.  I don't know about dove on my face ...cuz it's already really dry I don't use soap.  I used to just use water, but i switch now b/w water and johnson&johnson's clean and clear face wash!!!

How strong is Cyclax??  I know things with vitamin E are good.  Do u know of any other creams that aren't too harsh but that may help the dryness (not even necessarily an eczema cream?)

Jessica

Gobe

  • Guest
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #16 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 02:44:19 PM »
I also have severely dry skin.

I use 50% lwhite soft paraffin in 50% liquid white paraffin.  It contains no preservatives or parabans which can irritate.  The main drawback is it is greasy.

It is what they use in the Skin wards here to hydrate skin.

 :)
« Last Edit: Monday June 14, 2004, 03:51:25 PM by Gobe »

Offline MarieC

  • SkinCell Grand
  • Fa Shizzle
  • *****
  • Posts: 2714
  • Gender: Female
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #17 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 07:24:41 PM »
 :hi: Jdance...
 
I suffer from eczema also...i dont wash with any soap on my face.. i usually use almond oil which is a cleanser. then i use clean and clear astringent which restors my skin to the proper pH.oils are better than creams for dry skin, as creams have a drying effect and are better for weepy eczema.

Offline Nick

  • SkinCell Friend
  • SkinCell buddy
  • *
  • Posts: 14361
  • Gender: Male
    • SkinCell
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #18 on: Sunday June 13, 2004, 08:45:44 PM »
Hey there Jess,

Welcome :hi:

Sorr to hear about the *E :hugs: but by having a supportive b/f you have half the battle won already, you're very lucky :hug:

Offline poochie

  • SkinCell God
  • of Animal Lovers
  • *****
  • Posts: 531
  • Gender: Female
  • Registered SkinCell Member
Re:Ecxema help
« Reply #19 on: Monday June 14, 2004, 01:00:42 AM »
hi oz, i know how the itching can cause you to bleed i have done it many a time, my skin now has started to worsen over the last few days i have chronic excema . have you tried clobetasol 5% it has helped me get thru the rough times, but it is very strong. take care poo....