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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #40 on: Sunday May 17, 2009, 11:47:22 PM »
I also have several plum trees which I haven't pruned for several years.  The result is too many plums.  They start to fall while still green.  But I have been thinking about the nitriloside in the seeds, and it occurs to me that the unripe fruits may also contain the nitriloside in some small amount, and I don't need to crack any seeds open to get at it.  So today I went out and ate a half dozen unripe plums between the size of a nickle and a quarter.

When I was very young, perhaps five, I used to pick unripe apples and unripe concord grapes.  My mom didn't approve.  She said they would make me sick.  She was pretty authoritative about it.  But I had already been doing it for some time without her knowledge and had not gotten sick, which sort of made me suspect that perhaps someone had misled her on the subject.  My mom was a grownup and a college graduate (though I didn't really know what that was at the time) but she had a tendency to believe quite a few other things without much evidence.

So I did modify my eating habits to suit her.  I stopped eating unripe fruits when she was likely to catch me, but otherwise, I ate more than ever.  I don't recall ever getting sick.

It was she who also told me that gnawing on limes and lemons as I was fond of doing, would dissolve my teeth.  There may have been some merit in that.  I have at least five broken teeth now, not including my two upper front teeth.  The ones I have used all my life to gnaw on lemons, limes, oranges.  The bottom edges have now worn through until they are now horizontally slotted across the bottom.  Maybe my habit of drinking some fresh water after eating a lime or lemon (just to err on the side of caution) helped minimize the damage for all these years. 

So thanks for the warning mom, where ever you are.  I did listen to some of the things you told me.

And in your honor, tomorrow I intend to eat no more than a dozen little unripe plums.  Can't be too careful.  You were right dear.  After over sixty years, a couple of my teeth did dissolve.   
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #41 on: Thursday May 21, 2009, 05:07:05 PM »
At last, I am now eating raw Shmooo again every day.  And I have a tobacco addict (two packs a day) who expresses some interest in using Shmoo to assist him in quitting smoking, and keeping the weight off that often is gained by those who do successfully quit the smoking addiction.  But frankly, he equivocates so much that I don't think he has the real commitment needed to do the job.

I had some thoughts about raising a steer again, this time combining a large proportion of Shmooo in its' ration, along with the other Kobe style methods I used the last time I raised a steer over twenty five years ago.  But I have decided that maybe I no longer have the stamina for raising an animal that will top out 1200+ pounds.  Maybe rabbits.  Very lean meat which comes to harvest very quickly.  And people eat more game animals during depressions.

Or I might get a goat or two.  This bears some careful thought.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday May 27, 2009, 07:10:01 PM »
I now have enough fresh, raw Shmooo that I can eat whatever amount I like until next winter.  The dogs and cats all get some dried Shmooo in their rations every day.  I haven't yet gotten any rabbits or goats.

My preference is for rabbit.  Aside from the meat being too lean, there are no liabilities.  And I have some ideas about their diet and living circumstances that I want to try.  They will certainly get a lot of Shmooo stalks in their ration, along with another secret ingredient which I know few if any rabbit breeders are feeding their stock. 
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #43 on: Thursday June 04, 2009, 10:26:20 PM »
I was talking to one of my neighbors, who happens to work for the people who are trying to steal my house back after nine years.  But he is a nice guy, and I am certainly not going to hold his employers against him.  He had gotten some Shmooo from me and I think he wanted to return the kindness.  The other day he brought me some turnip greens, which I had never tasted.  So I said, "...and how about some Shmooo greens for you?"  But while I was cutting his Shmooo, it occurred to me that this was the first time I had ever used the word "greens" when talking about Shmooo leaves.  In a way, at least for that moment, it sort of seemed to fit.

Then, later, as I was trying to eat some of the turnip greens, I had some seconds thoughts.  Clearly, turnip leaves qualify loosely as food.  That is, they are not likely to poison you, and probably contain a certain amount of nutrition.  But Good Grief!  They do not taste good.  This is one of the big elements I use in defining something as food.  It must taste good to a discriminating person who is not starving.

Anyway, we got to talking while I was out gorging on my wild Indian Strawberries.  He ate a few and liked them, although they are only about a half inch long.  So I grabbed a big fistful of vines to give him.  But he noticed that they have spread over an extended territory without being cultivated in any way.  He didn't want anything that might take over his lawn, which he has to mow on a weekly basis.  Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Then he says, "I notice you don't use that Toro." (a sitdown mower). 

I say, "That's true.  I like to mow when the grass is pretty tall, and the mower slips the belt once in a while in the really tall stuff, and I have to get underneath to put the belt back on.  It would be a good mower for someone who never lets his grass grow over four or five inches."

He wrote me a five hundred dollar check for the mower, and he can now sit while he mows his lawn.  It won't be more than another few years before my wild strawberries, Shmooo, and other foods that can fend off the competition will populate the entire yard.  But why on Earth would anyone choose a lawn that had to be maintained weekly, instead of an unlimited supply of fruits and vegetables, without cultivation?  It just doesn't make sense to me.  And I guess I won't be using the word "greens" coupled with Shmooo.  I would hate to give the impression that Shmooo was sort of like turnip greens, or mustard greens or collard greens, unless I am talking to someone who already holds that all these other greens are really food.

There is some food I grow which I haven't bothered to eat.  I have some Tarot plants, but I really like those huge elephant ear like leaves too much to dig up the root to eat.

 
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #44 on: Friday June 05, 2009, 11:40:01 AM »
*giggle* The best part of greens is the juice. Called "pot likker," that stuff'll put hair on your chest. :)
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #45 on: Friday June 05, 2009, 05:22:09 PM »
Yech.  I felt that way about dandelion greens as a kid. :P

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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #46 on: Monday June 08, 2009, 07:13:03 PM »
I suppose there is a lot of nutrition in these various southern "greens" that would boil out into the water to form some sort of soup stock.  I may revisit the idea, but I suspect I will have to make it a complex soup to disguise it all. 

The Shmooo, on the other hand, goes very nicely in my coffee every day, and needs not to be disguised.  (Of course, I use dried crumbled Shmooo leaves for this).  On occasion, I get distracted and forget the Shmooo, and in spite of all the other ingredients I brew into my coffee, (turmeric, Baker's cocoa, cinnamon, grated orange peel, and after brewing, Irish creamer and coffee liquor) my wife says, "What, are you out of dried Shmooo again?  So, although the Shmooo is not particularly overpowering in the coffee, it is missed when it is not there.

Speaking of subtle flavors, a few words about my spreading patch of Indian Strawberries.  A friend had an absolutely lovely huge Muscadine grape vine covering an entire arbor.  Her elderly father, who I call Zeus, took a dislike to the vine, so she hacked about nine tenths of it back, and I suppose she would have gotten it all out of the ground, but she couldn't.  Some of the roots were as big as your wrist.  So I told her I would come over and get it out of the ground and provide it a new home.  It took me the better part of two hours.

Anyway, before going over, I went out and harvested some of the Indian Strawberries.  When I got there, she looked at them and immediately exclaimed: "You can't eat them!"  Then she went to her horticultural encyclopedia and showed me that they weren't for eating.  It said so right there.  It also said that there was no toxicity of any sort.  Just that they were less flavorful than commercial strawberries.  But the typical reader, like my friend, would conclude that these perfectly satisfactory little fruits were not to be used as food.  She would not touch a single one.  The book said no.  So I ate them all.

Some people also conclude that Muscadine Grapes are only good for jellies or jams.  The skin is thick and rather chewy.  They have, as grapes go, unusually large seeds.  The nutraceutical industry actually sells the ground seeds, in capsules, at an extremely high price, for all the benefits they provide.  These have to be the most nutritious grapes there are, between the nutritious seeds and all the resveretrol in the skins.  The grapes themselves sell at the farmer's market for about $5 a pound.  They are not at all like any other grape.  They are picked singly, not snipped off in bunches for example.  I will eventually have many of these vines on my property.

I transplanted that hacked-up vine in my back yard.  I broke my No Till rule.  I dug a hole.  And, for a little while, I will actually water it.  It is the least I can do after hacking it up the way I did.

My Mom taught me not to eat grape seeds or watermelon seeds, and of course, it really is a good idea not to eat apple seeds in any great quantity (two or three may not hurt you, but a quarter of a cup would probably kill you.  Anyway, Mom said seeds in general wouldn't be good for me.  I listened to her about that.  I'm not quite sure why.  I knew she wasn't right about unripe apples or unripe concord grapes giving me a tummy ache.  I guess we all just sort of want to believe our parents, even after they lie to us about Santa or the Easter Bunny.  Who knows?  Maybe that is just some sort of preparation for all the lies we will get in the future from our respective governments, and from big business, and from each other.  Yes friends, we too are part of the problem.  We may not mean to spread disinformation, but we often do.  End of rant.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #47 on: Saturday June 13, 2009, 09:29:01 PM »
Last fall, I deliberately left the Shmooo seed on the plants so that each planted area would seed itself, eliminating the need to reseed the following year.  I didn't really want to let the seed go to waste, since it is almost certainly even more concentrated in its' nutrition than the leaves.

It turns out that this was a totally wasted effort (except for what I learned by trying).  Not one plant grew from these previous plots.  What this means is that the Shmooo seed won't remain viable even in the fairly light freezes of the winters of the deep south.  Next winter I will harvest the seeds of all but one patch, and bury that patch in a light layer of compost.

My Indian strawberries continue to reseed themselves and take over ever larger sections of lawn each year, without any cultivation whatsoever.

The big Muscadine grape vine I planted seems to be in shock for now, but I will continue to water it heavily.  I laced the roots with a tablespoonful of rooting hormone, so even though it is looking pretty peaked at the moment, I have hopes for it.

The Tarot root plants are now in their third year, or maybe fourth, without any help from me, but they don't seem to be spreading on their own.  I think my next project is going to be raising some big New Zealand white rabbits.  I have eaten wild rabbit on a few occasions when I was younger and very hungry.  It is a good use for the many varieties of weeds I have growing.  I'll just let the rabbits turn them into meat and fertilizer.  But first, I have to find some New Zealand rabbits.  They should grow quite a bit bigger than the ones I used to eat.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #48 on: Saturday June 20, 2009, 09:11:17 PM »
I would like to say a few words here about invention and innovation.  Historically, and certainly prehistorically, most invention has been done by individuals.  Even in the early industrial revolution, that was still largely the case.  In the twentieth century this really changed sharply.  And today, most invention is done at the corporate level.  This is an artifact of how government/industry has metastasized, and to my mind, it is unfortunate in a variety of ways.  But it is not likely that much can be done about it.

I have been engaged in my No Till Farming Experiments actively for about five years.  It is not surprising that for the bulk of that time, not too much of note happened.  That is the way innovation works.  Dead end after dead end stack up during the learning and investigation phase.  It is actually crucial for the creative process.  A part of the regimentation of inventors is in the patent notebooks to prove priority and diligence and so on. 

If you are really into the creative process, and wish to accomplish something, this is a real liability.  The time expended for documentation is mind-boggling.  So I did not really begin to write about what I was doing until some tangible successes began to accumulate.  So let us review a little bit.  Let us first talk about what I wanted to accomplish.  I was looking for crops which would grow with little or no cultivation effort.  No tractors.  No digging.  No weeding unless the weeds were being harvested for another purpose.

Two crops that were of merit were the Indian Strawberries and Tarot plants.  Both were planted by throwing down the roots or the plants and berries and stepping on them.  Now, Tarot tubers are used to make Poi, which I have no special liking for, so it was very easy not to pay any attention to it, other than to supply a little water during a drought.

The Indian Strawberries do not seem to me to have much commercial merit, but I like them.  On top of that, they require no care.  They tend to spread over a wider territory each year on their own.  They have spread over perhaps fifty or a hundred times the original area on their own.  So they are an unqualified success.

Bitter Melon had some medicinal properties I was interested in, but had some aesthetically displeasing elements.  And there were literally dozens of plants I experimented with, with other liabilities that scratched them from my list. 

I failed completely to get Maca to grow in this particular environment.  I get some tomatoes each year, but they struggle a lot without some minimal tending.  The yield is not great.

I have not yet been successful with Muscadine grapes yet, though I have some other kinds of grapes growing wild.  I don't know if I can get them to grow and bear, using my No Till methods, but in the case of Muscadine grapes, I will keep trying for years if necessary.  I will find the minimums required to make the plant thrive.   

Most of the other commercial cultivated berries I have tried to let grow, have not yet accomplished anything.  Some of the wild berries I have growing, other than the Indian Strawberries, I don't eat too many of, simply because I am not sure of the levels of possible toxicity.  It is not a great test that the birds eat them.  But if it looks like some sort of wild raspberry, I generally eat all I can find, so far without ill effects.

It is the Shmooo that is currently my singularly greatest success.  Volumetrically, nutritionally, and particularly in terms of taste and gustatorial adaptability.

Now I am looking for some New Zealand meat rabbits, to see how well this prolific Shmooo crop and some of the abundant weeds can be converted into lean protein.  It takes almost no labor to skin out a rabbit, and with two dogs, and cats in abundance, there is no waste at all.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #49 on: Friday July 10, 2009, 12:10:17 AM »
It is amazing how hard it has been to find some nice big meaty rabbits.  I really want to buy locally.  I have been fairly busy in the fight for my home, but even so, I should have had a couple of pairs of rabbits by now.

Insects, especially grasshoppers, have been more active with the Shmooo this year than they were last year.  One farmer suggested that I start using insecticides, and herbicides like Round-Up.  I think not.  It seems to me that organic and No Till should fit together.  And since I am growing considerably more Shmooo this year than last, I am in no real danger of running out.

And when I do get the rabbits, they will get to eat the leaves with the holes in them.  No waste.   
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #50 on: Monday July 27, 2009, 11:00:43 PM »
In the southern USA we have been experiencing some pretty serious drought conditions.  Shmooo likes water.  So I was wondering how successfully I would raise my crop this year.  I have not been watering daily, but I have been watering pretty deeply.  Sometimes the crops have begun to droop considerably, but then, when water is supplied, the plants come back fully.  There are no apparent after effects of this stress on the plants.  As a matter of fact, some of the plants are seven feet tall.  That is why I am so anxious to get some rabbits to try it on as the central feed.  Aside from the fight for the house, the other thing that has been slowing me down has been the extremely hot weather.  I really don't know how well rabbits survive in blistering hot weather.

The other objective I am working on is finding someone who is seriously gravitationally challenged to consume Shmooo on a daily basis.  I have an appointment later today with a fellow who would like to lose ninety to a hundred pounds.  We will see how that works out.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #51 on: Friday July 31, 2009, 02:33:58 AM »
I haven't yet gotten the rabbits, partly because of the drought and heat wave.  I don't really know how well rabbits stand up to heat, so I'm going to let it get a little closer to fall.

We just got a couple of inches of rain.  A few of the Shmooo plants are approaching eight feet in height.  We have a pretty good crop of grasshoppers this year, but the plants are continuing to thrive in spite of their predation.  I will certainly not employ insecticides or herbicides.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #52 on: Friday August 07, 2009, 02:32:28 AM »
I have been mixing Shmooo with my coffee grounds during brewing, for at least a year now.  Recently, I tried straight Shmooo tea.  Good hot or cold.  It takes quite a while to darken.  I have used well dried, crumbled leaves with good success.  Today I made a gallon of tea using fresh leaves.  I'm just going to let them steep for some time.  One of the things I want to find out is, how stimulating the Shmooo tea is without coffee in the mix.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #53 on: Saturday August 15, 2009, 11:15:25 PM »
I decided to see how little sugar I could add to get some wild yeasts going from one of my wines.  The packet of Turbinado sugar had no weight printed on it.  Figure less than a rounded teaspoon in a gallon of tea made with 60 Shmooo leaves.  Then I added a tablespoonful of wine that had little yeast action going on.  In a few days, the glass jug was somewhat pressurized.  The yeast had eaten the sugar, but the population was not large and carbonation was barely detectable on the tongue.  Perhaps a tenth of the carbonation of an actively fermenting wine or less.  I added a few more packets of Turbinado sugar.  The Shmooo makes a pale amber brew, even though I made the gallon with 60 average sized leaves.  Next time I'll try 100 leaves.  (I don't drink teas on a daily basis, and favor dark strong smokey teas like Lapsang Souchong.  So, for me, the Shmooo tea will have to get a lot stronger before my palate is going to pay much attention.

Now that I have demonstrated that the tea can be fermented with the wild yeasts cultivated in grape/pomegranate/blueberry wine, I hope to see if I can produce a Kombucha style growth on top.  That could take a few months.  My next batch, I may add some dark, smoked tea like Lapsang Souchong and start out with a half cup of Turbinado sugar for the gallon.

My favorite way of eating the Shmooo is raw, right off the plant, or a dozen leaves or so on a sandwich.  Of course, it's in my coffee every day, but since the leaves are crumbled right into the grounds, I don't know, quantitatively, how much of the essence of Shmooo actually gets to the coffee mug.

When I was doing the half-pound-a-day loading experiments on me last year, I didn't count what went into the coffee.  Only the fresh leaves I ate.  If I ate dry crumbled leaves, I held three grams dry weight to be equivalent to an ounce of fresh Shmooo.  This year, I am no longer measuring.  I am probably eating more than a half pound some days, but probably not quite that much usually.

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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #54 on: Saturday August 29, 2009, 03:32:44 AM »
Some of the Shmooo plants are now over eight feet tall.  This is rather astonishing to me.  I just planted about twenty more square meters.  Two reasons.  I have some enthusiastic grasshoppers munching some of it.  I choose to live with the losses rather than apply anything to discourage them. 

I may have mentioned that I wanted to test the Shmooo on some herbivores.  I raised a Black Angus steer experimentally, using a few of the principles applied in Japan to Kobe beef.  It wound up being the best beef I had ever tasted.

But raising a thousand pound animal is a bit more daunting now than it was a quarter of a century ago.  I decided on some New Zealand meat rabbits, but the only ones I was able to locate were a considerable distance away. 

Instead, I found a pair of normal-sized Lop-Eared bunnies.  A mating pair.  The only trouble is, they are quite attractive and cuddly.  I am afraid they are going to be permanent pets.  I would have to be very hungry to eat one of them.  But at least I will learn how well they acclimatize to a diet in which the biggest component is Shmooo.  Time will tell.   
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #55 on: Saturday August 29, 2009, 06:22:49 AM »
Ooh, wild strawberries! I have missed them greatly.

Apparently many people - some of them educated - think they're poisonous. I've had folks beg me not to eat them... but a big, ripe, juicy... I keep shocking people. :)

Lops are cute. However, if the cuddliness is going to be a problem, I recommend a dwarf. Sure, they're small, and would have less meat... but on the other hand, those things are so violent that killing one would be a pleasure instead of a mournful task. My family owned one of these little devils once, and to this day the only rabbit I think is cute is a Lop.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday September 01, 2009, 02:58:40 AM »
Perhaps, Bama, we are not talking of the same variety of strawberry.  These are only about as big around as the tip of my pinky fingernail.  And the seeds are not flattened against the strawberry, but stick out enough to get a few knocked off as you pick and eat them.  So, in essence, I am replanting in the process of eating them.

As for the Lop-eared rabbits, they have, in the past week, provided me with considerable interesting information.  Since I surmise that in their eight months of life, they have had nothing but rabbit pellets to eat and water to drink, I didn't want to shock their systems too much.  So I got a ten pound bag of pellets.  So far, I have given them each a quarter of a cup every couple of days.  But they have had a veritable cornucopia of of plants from the yard.  And of course, more Shmooo, which they seem to eat preferentially over most of the other plants.  They seem blissfully happy, particularly since they are living on the ground, and not running around in a chicken wire hutch.  All in all, it has been a week with a pretty high learning curve.  Particularly since I have been working on an oceanographic project as well.  Leave it to me, to work on an ocean project with no ocean anywhere near.   
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #57 on: Thursday September 03, 2009, 06:10:45 AM »
Flicker pic here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinandtelly/687503729/

Every now and then you'll get one that has had plenty of water, and it'll get over a centimeter long. Those are the best...

I was surprised to find, via image search, several pictures of wild strawberries that look like tame strawberries. They've got recessed seeds and little leaf tops and everything. I have actually never found those in the wild.

Another pic:

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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #58 on: Saturday September 05, 2009, 01:26:43 AM »
Your picture looks very much the same as the Indian Strawberries I have in my front yard, except the elevated seeds are a coffee brown in color and are crunchy.
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Re: The Exotic Maca Plant & UltraNutiritious Shmooo Spice/Vegetable
« Reply #59 on: Saturday September 05, 2009, 10:26:10 AM »
I've seen them with brown seeds. And yes, those are the "poisonous snake berries" that should have killed me a long time ago. ;D The rest of the world does not know what they are missing.
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