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« on: Thursday June 09, 2005, 10:20:02 PM »

I found this on the net about getting rid of cancer

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A few years ago I read somewhere that apricot seeds DO cure cancer and people who eat at least 5 apricot seeds a day NEVER get cancer.

If this is true, why do the doctors, produt makers not use apricot seeds? and why is it impossible to buy them from the shops?

Anyone know what to make of this? Do you suppose apricots really do cure cancer? Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday June 12, 2005, 10:36:13 PM »

I read your post and that claim did ring a bell with me so I did a Google search. I received 39,500 results, but I just went to the first one, which is at curezone.com

http://curezone.com/foods/laetrile.html

Seems that it's the B17 in the apricot kernels. However, B17 is also found in most fruit seeds, like apples, peaches, cherries, oranges, nectarines.

Don't throw away those peach pits. Natural cancer medication is contained inside.
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« Reply #2 on: Monday June 13, 2005, 12:39:11 PM »

Unfortunately you may find that other more harmful compounds are found in apricot kernels and certainly in apple pips, compounds like hydrogen cyanide.

If the above really was a cancer curing remedy then it would be mainstream and being produced in vast quantities by the largest pharma companies.

Oddly enough, Quackwatch has written a piece on this:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

Not exactly very encouraging.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday June 14, 2005, 10:14:12 PM »

Unfortunately you may find that other more harmful compounds are found in apricot kernels and certainly in apple pips, compounds like hydrogen cyanide.

If the above really was a cancer curing remedy then it would be mainstream and being produced in vast quantities by the largest pharma companies.

Oddly enough, Quackwatch has written a piece on this:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

Not exactly very encouraging.

Dadah dunh dunh dunh, another one bites the dust!  Haha, great work, Nick! Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday June 14, 2005, 10:16:48 PM »



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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday June 14, 2005, 10:20:49 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday June 14, 2005, 10:28:41 PM »



Is there something wrong with me or does that look pretty tasty?
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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday June 15, 2005, 02:17:48 AM »

Unfortunately you may find that other more harmful compounds are found in apricot kernels and certainly in apple pips, compounds like hydrogen cyanide.

If the above really was a cancer curing remedy then it would be mainstream and being produced in vast quantities by the largest pharma companies.

Oddly enough, Quackwatch has written a piece on this:

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/laetrile.html

Not exactly very encouraging.

Nick -

But how can you be so sure that the pharmaceautical industry has NOT come out with drugs that are based on the molecular structure of an apricot seed or peach seed or nectarine seed or some other thing that is already found in nature. A synthetic "rip-off" if you will ? Sort of like Rayon or Nylon or Chiffon or Cortex or Spandex or....manmade synthetic clothing materials created in labratories. Remember - nothing in this world is totally original. Everything has its roots in something that came before it. The term for this is called "Reverse Engineering." You take an established product (in this case, the lowly apricot seed), figure out what makes it "tick," and then get engineers or chemists to recreate it. Viola !!

So, if what I am saying is true, they'd certainly never let on to that trade secret. If the general public caught wind that the medication that they were taking for, say, colon cancer was a based on the molecular design of an apricot seed, they'd just stop buying the expensive drug and buy apricots instead.

Excuse the expression, but "Food for Thought."

As to the other fact about Hydrogen Cyanide in fruit seeds - You are Absolutely Correct !!! Here is the Straight Dope
( http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_212.html ) on apricot seeds:


Dear Cecil:

I'm afraid for my life. All these years I've been eating the seeds of fruit, such as apples, oranges, apricots, peaches, plums, etc. I started when I began living with my grandfather, a dentist, about 10 years ago. He said they were good for the teeth because of the minerals they contained. Over the years I've cultivated a taste for them, and was extremely delighted when I found I could buy them in quantities of a pound or more at health food stores. Recently, however, a friend told me that all fruit seeds contained cyanide, and that he had read an item in a newspaper once about someone who had died from eating apple seeds! I am especially concerned about apricot kernels, my favorite. What's a lethal dose? Can any be eaten safely? If so, about how many? I really like them and would be loath to give them up, but on the other hand I really don't want to be slowly poisoning myself and my guests and roommates. --John T., Phoenix

Dear John:

You've got good reason to be afraid, pal. Fruits of the rose family--including cherries, apples, plums, almonds, peaches, apricots, and crabapples--contain in their seeds substances known as cyanogenetic glycosides, which on ingestion release hydrogen cyanide gas through an enzymatic reaction. They can most certainly do you in. Since 1957, Turkey--a big apricot country--has reported nine cases of lethal poisoning from apricot seeds. Unfortunately, victims of such poisonings have a habit of kicking the bucket before doctors have a chance to ask them how many seeds they've eaten; in addition, the amount of amygdalin--the most important cyanogenetic glycoside--varies from species to species, and since the poisoning does not involve a direct transfer of cyanide from one place to another, "lethal dosages" of these various seeds are hard to pin down. Use the following as guidelines: (1) bitter almonds contain by far the greatest amount of amygdalin, and it takes 50-70 of them to kill an adult, 7-10 to kill a child. (2) Ingestion of about a cupful of any of the above seeds is pushing things a bit.

If you've been munching on seeds for years and have never felt any ill effects, you can safely continue to eat them in similar quantities without worrying. Keep in mind, however, that one gluttonous binge will put you away forever. Sub-lethal doses of cyanide gas are detoxified and passed out of the body rapidly, so it's impossible to slowly poison yourself over a period of time. Symptoms of cyanide poisoning are excitement, convulsions, respiratory distress, and spasms. Another warning sign is death, which can occur without any of the other symptoms.

All of this, by the way, applies only to fresh seeds. Roasting the seeds will destroy the enzymes needed to produce the lethal reaction without appreciably affecting the mineral content of your munchies. Note to shocked almond freaks: regular old almonds contain far less amygdalin than the bitter variety.

--CECIL ADAMS

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday July 23, 2005, 08:14:56 PM »

I found this forum online and just because one side says an opinion doe's not mean it beats the facts.

One of the links that someone gave from quackwatch stated a person that my brother knows which they do not say the other story on how apricot seeds did help the person cure his cancer. well read the links which indicated that people and the FDA agree that it worked but it is considered an illegal drug, and to make it legal you need 20 mill, and all multi billion $ companies will close which does not interest the government or companies so saying the negative side while bending the truth benefits them.

F@#%$& Fashists.

"35 yr old, Jason Vale, who was terminal from cancer, and went on to become the Arm Wrestling World Champion, has recently faced his most difficult opponent -- the Federal Drug Administration.

The FDA did agree that there were 28,000 people that have documented claims that they were cured through Jason's office, and also that they never received one complaint about him."
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=34560

"Apricot seeds, which sell for about $15 a pound, could easily compete with the highly dangerous and toxic chemotherapy and radiation used in standard cancer treatments."
"The effectiveness of apricot seeds in curing cancer is astonishing! Dr. Dean Burk, the former head of the Cytochemistry Department of the National Cancer Institute... we can see the cancer cells dying off like flies!"

"without even one customer complaint, the FDA came in and seized apricot seeds and computers and brought Jason to criminal court for promoting this natural answer to cancer. "
http://www.healthfreedom.info/Jason%20Vale%20v.%20FDA.htm

Why does the FDA intentionaly do this?
"The cancer industry is a $200 Billion a year industry. That's right not $200 million but $200 BILLION !!!... Now if you had a large interest in such a huge market wouldn't you try to protect your industry and market share?" In other word no profit to be made if it is free and that is illegal which many things have been deemed illegal in this sense..
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/2003/12/13/jason_vale_and_the_cancer_mafia.htm

"Cancer Research - A Super Fraud...
Most Cancer IS Preventable According to the International Agency for Research in Cancer "...80-90 per cent of human cancer is determined environmentally and thus theoretically avoidable.""
http://www.healthfreedom.info/cancer_research.htm
I know people that work at the head of the cancer which have posted in major medical journals and they admit what they are doing is a joke, but they do it since it pays and so many people pay them since they are delusional.

Seeds not dangerous
Doctor Ben-Joseph says: "apricot seeds are no more dangerous than other natural remedies, and he believes they should be legal for use as a cancer treatment." http://www.cnsnews.com/Nation/Archive/200307/NAT20030718a.html

"Jason is in very good company. Many good men have gone into Federal Prison by defying the FDA in the way that he has. He is not the first, and he won't be the last to experience this gross and evil injustice"
http://www.geocities.com/three_strikes_legal/jason_vale_railroaded.htm
Jason's site http://www.seedoffaith.com/

Much more info online. And this is not just cancer but many other problems that are prevented.

================= ALSO
Even water can kill you if you drink too much, so everything to moderation. Even liquor has killed more but the FDA doesn't stop that. The point is that even the FDA admitted that it did cure people. The majority of people with cancer that take the therapy doe's not help and they die. What you will tell a dying person not to take apple seeds since it will kill them? That is oxymoronic. Also to be arrested for selling things that people can buy on their own at the store is unconstitutional.

Another note, an actress that had cancer said he ate none cooked foods to cure her cancer like fruits and veggies. Angry

Remember if people do not make a profit then it is illegal and will be demonized. Money makes the world go round not the truth. the only person you can reply on is yourself, so don't truth everyones word no matter how set people are to trust the lies. You have a mind, and it would be wrong not to use it.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday July 26, 2005, 10:56:55 PM »

xls,

The manner in which you posted that thread comes across as being very aggressive.

It's not exactly the best way to help people understand your perspective on things.
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday April 06, 2006, 04:10:09 PM »

Can pharmaceuticals make money on things they can't patton? I was told they couldn't?

Now I've heard that in Germany, certain plants and herbs are prescription only. Which seems to violate the consumer's right in my opinion. But that way they make money on herbs and alternative cures. That's not exactly fair.

Has anyone heard of Dr. Joel Wallach? He has an MD and is also a Vet I believe. He talks about the interest in drugs being mainly because they have to be created and developed in a laboratory and, therefore, can be pattoned. Anything that can't be pattoned, like herbs and even hydrogen peroxide, can't be counted on for a profit because it is readily available. Thus the pharmaceuticals and MDs would go broke. They have to provide for their families too, so there isn't much interest.

Any thoughts?

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday April 16, 2006, 02:07:16 AM »

I'm freakin' now! It's apple season in NZ and there I was munching away on those cores, thinking it might be good 'roughage' Shocked First time I think I have done that since I was a kid  (not sure why). I didn't like the taste of the seeds, far from it - terribly bitter and unpalatable.
Maybe one should trust one's basic instincts (nothing to do with Sharon Stone) and if something tastes like it shouldn't be eaten then it probably shouldn't...
I have never tried an apricot kernal though.
Other than that piece of relatively useless information, a fascinating link going on here - high drama indeed...
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